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Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake

To: "'healeys'" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake
From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 18:52:01 -0400
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Well, first of all the structures are different between the E-type and =
the BJ8.  The purpose of the structural mod to the firewall is to =
stiffen it to increase its natural vibration frequency.  I did that mod =
and noticed the difference, but it didn=E2=80=99t remove all of the =
shake.  Allen Hendrix did his magic by balancing and truing the wheels =
and shaving the tires.  It removed almost all of the shake, and =
balancing the drums did the rest.  I consider myself lucky to live close =
enough to Allen that I can take the car to him when necessary.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom =
Felts
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 1:56 PM
To: rfbegani@gmail.com
Cc: 'healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake

=20

I have no scuttle shake on my 66 E-Type OTS and it is smooth as silk at =
all speeds. Why would a Healey or any car be any different? If this was =
a function of the tires, would'nt we see tires being shaved on many =
different cars? I have this strange suspicion it is unique to the =
Healey.

=20

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=20

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----- Original Message -----
From: rfbegani@gmail.com
To: 'Team.net' <lawrence.swift@gmail.com>, 'Michael Salter' =
<michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 12:58:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake

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https://tinyurl.com/jnd85dvk   Youtube showing how they do it on the car =
and the equipment.

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From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:57 PM
To: 'Team.net' <lawrence.swift@gmail.com>; 'Michael Salter' =
<michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: "SS" aka--scuttle shake

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I had the tires shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to =
the position the car.  The best were on the front right left and the =
worst were rear right and left.  Did not balance brake drums or anything =
else.  Now only a little shake which is acceptable.  Best $200 I ever =
spent on my BJ8, along with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a =
little more.

=20

Hard to find a garage which has the equipment.  You need to do an =
in-depth search for Shaving Tires Near Me.  Fortunately, I found a great =
guy with the original equipment 2 hours drive across the state of =
Florida.  Note, you may find garages listed that only have equipment for =
Truck Tires.

=20

Bob Begani

Punta Gorda Florida

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Team.net
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8---clutch and "SS" aka--scuttle shake

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Agreed, I had the tires shaved and the rear brake drums balanced - now =
no scuttle shake.

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On Jul 8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

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Second------for the years I have had this car, I have hated the dreaded =
scuttle shake.  I have balanced all wheels--even added the scuttle shake =
"mod"  (cross beams on the inner body, behind the engine) and had the =
rear drums balanced locally.  All to no avail-----between 55 and 65 =
there is comes again!!  The drive was wonderful all the while as long as =
I drove slower or faster than these speeds.

=20

What to do------what to do???

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Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Tom

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Well, first of all the structures are different between =
the
E-type and the BJ8.=C2=A0 The purpose of the structural mod to the =
firewall is to
stiffen it to increase its natural vibration frequency.=C2=A0 I did that =
mod and noticed
the difference, but it didn=E2=80=99t remove all of the shake.=C2=A0 =
Allen Hendrix did his
magic by balancing and truing the wheels and shaving the tires.=C2=A0 It =
removed
almost all of the shake, and balancing the drums did the rest.=C2=A0 I =
consider
myself lucky to live close enough to Allen that I can take the car to =
him when
necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom =
Felts<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 8, 2021 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> rfbegani@gmail.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'healeys'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] &quot;SS&quot; aka--scuttle =
shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I
have no scuttle shake on my 66 E-Type OTS and it is smooth as silk at =
all
speeds. Why would a Healey or any car be any different? If this was a =
function
of the tires, would'nt we see tires being shaved on many different cars? =
I have
this strange suspicion it is unique to the Healey.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----
Original Message -----<br>
From: rfbegani@gmail.com<br>
To: 'Team.net' &lt;lawrence.swift@gmail.com&gt;, 'Michael Salter'
&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;<br>
Cc: 'healeys' &lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 12:58:48 -0400 (EDT)<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] &quot;SS&quot; aka--scuttle =
shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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a
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target=3D"_blank">https://tinyurl.com/jnd85dvk</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
Youtube showing how they do it on the car and the equipment.</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
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style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color:black'>
rfbegani@gmail.com &lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Team.net' &lt;lawrence.swift@gmail.com&gt;; 'Michael Salter'
&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'healeys' &lt;Healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> &quot;SS&quot; aka--scuttle shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 had the
tires shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to the =
position the
car.&nbsp; The best were on the front right left and the worst were rear =
right
and left.&nbsp; Did not balance brake drums or anything else.&nbsp; Now =
only a
little shake which is acceptable.&nbsp; Best $200 I ever spent on my =
BJ8, along
with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a little more.</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>H=
ard to
find a garage which has the equipment.&nbsp; You need to do an in-depth =
search
for Shaving Tires Near Me.&nbsp; Fortunately, I found a great guy with =
the
original equipment 2 hours drive across the state of Florida.&nbsp; =
Note, you
may find garages listed that only have equipment for Truck =
Tires.</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
ob Begani</span><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P=
unta Gorda
Florida</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
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style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'color:black'> =
Healeys &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8---clutch and &quot;SS&quot; =
aka--scuttle
shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:black'>Agreed, I had the tires shaved and the rear brake =
drums
balanced - now no scuttle shake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style=3D'color:black'>On Jul 8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:black'>Second------for the years I have had this car, I =
have hated
the dreaded scuttle shake.&nbsp; I have balanced all wheels--even added =
the
scuttle shake &quot;mod&quot;&nbsp; (cross beams on the inner body, =
behind the
engine) and had the rear drums balanced locally.&nbsp; All to no
avail-----between 55 and 65 there is comes again!!&nbsp; The drive was
wonderful all the while as long as I drove slower or faster than these =
speeds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:black'>What to do------what to =
do???<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:black'>Any thoughts would be =
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:black'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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