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Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake

To: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:40:56 -0400
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When I did the changeover to the Ford V8 I was determined to solve the
scuttle shake problem.  Here's what I did:  New Dayton 72 spokes with
Michelin XaS tires, shaved and balanced by Hendrix.  Rear drum brakes
balanced by Hendrix.  Front suspension totally rebuilt.  Additional
stiffening of the BJ7 by welding in the stiffeners (Keith Pennel
suggestions I think) doghouse while all the fab was going on to widen the
footwells.  Guess what?  I've had it over the ton without a bit of scuttle
shake.  But which one or a combination of the above cured it, I have no
idea.

Happy Healeying,
Rick Neville

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On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 8:28 PM Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had "interesting" conversations with the machine shop the last time I
> had drums balanced... I was in the parts store for something else and ask=
ed
> whether their machines could handle drum balance. They patted me on the
> head and said 'you mean turn the drums'. No, I really mean balance.
>
> Machine shop guy says they can handle it, but it's almost impossible the
> drums will need it. I dropped off the drums and waited for the call.
>
> Machine shop guy calls to ask how much clearance between the drum and the
> wheel? Why, I ask? Because the drums are so far out of balance that
> grinding the fins won't work - he needed to weld on weight! There was
> clearance, and the car rides MUCH smoother.
>
> They were amazed. I wasn't surprised a bit.
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 1:58 PM llennep--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I have been told for many years that the rear axle housing, brake
>> assemblies etc on these cars are so heavy that any imbalance will not be
>> noticed.  Not so.  I balanced mine and I could feel the difference.  Als=
o
>> balanced a few other drums.  I strongly recommend balancing drums!!!  Yo=
u
>> will be surprised at how much out of balance some of them are.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rfbegani@gmail.com
>> To: 'Team.net' <lawrence.swift@gmail.com>; 'Michael Salter' <
>> michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 8, 2021 12:56 pm
>> Subject: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake
>>
>> I had the tires shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to
>> the position the car.  The best were on the front right left and the wor=
st
>> were rear right and left.  Did not balance brake drums or anything else.
>> Now only a little shake which is acceptable.  Best $200 I ever spent on =
my
>> BJ8, along with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a little more.
>>
>> Hard to find a garage which has the equipment.  You need to do an
>> in-depth search for Shaving Tires Near Me.  Fortunately, I found a great
>> guy with the original equipment 2 hours drive across the state of Florid=
a.
>> Note, you may find garages listed that only have equipment for Truck Tir=
es.
>>
>> Bob Begani
>> Punta Gorda Florida
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Team.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:26 AM
>> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8---clutch and "SS" aka--scuttle shake
>>
>> Agreed, I had the tires shaved and the rear brake drums balanced - now n=
o
>> scuttle shake.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>>
>>
>> Second------for the years I have had this car, I have hated the dreaded
>> scuttle shake.  I have balanced all wheels--even added the scuttle shake
>> "mod"  (cross beams on the inner body, behind the engine) and had the re=
ar
>> drums balanced locally.  All to no avail-----between 55 and 65 there is
>> comes again!!  The drive was wonderful all the while as long as I drove
>> slower or faster than these speeds.
>>
>> What to do------what to do???
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">When I did the changeover to the Ford V8 I was determined =
to solve the scuttle shake problem.=C2=A0 Here&#39;s what I did:=C2=A0 New =
Dayton 72 spokes with Michelin XaS tires, shaved and balanced by Hendrix.=
=C2=A0 Rear drum brakes balanced by Hendrix.=C2=A0 Front suspension totally=
 rebuilt.=C2=A0 Additional stiffening of the BJ7 by welding in the stiffene=
rs (Keith Pennel suggestions=C2=A0I think) doghouse while all the fab was g=
oing on to widen the footwells.=C2=A0 Guess what?=C2=A0 I&#39;ve had it ove=
r the ton without a bit of scuttle shake.=C2=A0 But which one or a combinat=
ion of the above cured it, I have no idea.<div><br></div><div>Happy Healeyi=
ng,</div><div>Rick Neville</div></div><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E=
2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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t=3D"1"></a></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 8:28 PM Al Fuller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
alfuller194@gmail.com">alfuller194@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I had &quot;i=
nteresting&quot; conversations with the machine shop the last time I had dr=
ums balanced... I was in the parts store for something else and asked wheth=
er their machines could handle drum balance. They patted me on the head and=
 said &#39;you mean turn the drums&#39;. No, I really mean balance.<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Machine shop guy says they can handle=
 it, but it&#39;s almost impossible the drums will need it. I dropped off t=
he drums and waited for the call.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Machine shop guy calls to ask how much clearance between the drum=
 and the wheel? Why, I ask? Because the drums are so far out of balance tha=
t grinding the fins won&#39;t work - he needed to weld on weight! There was=
 clearance, and the car rides MUCH smoother.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">They were amazed. I wasn&#39;t surprised a bit.</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 1:58 PM llennep--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I have been=
 told for many years that the rear axle housing, brake assemblies etc on th=
ese cars are so heavy that any imbalance will not be noticed.=C2=A0 Not so.=
=C2=A0 I balanced mine and I could feel the difference.=C2=A0 Also balanced=
 a few other drums.=C2=A0 I strongly recommend balancing drums!!!=C2=A0 You=
 will be surprised at how much out of balance some of them are.<br>
<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>
To: &#39;Team.net&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lawrence.swift@gmail.com"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">lawrence.swift@gmail.com</a>&gt;; &#39;Mi=
chael Salter&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &#39;healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jul 8, 2021 12:56 pm<br>
Subject: [Healeys] &quot;SS&quot; aka--scuttle shake<br>
<br>

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<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I had the =
tires shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to the position =
the car.=C2=A0 The best were on the front right left and the worst were rea=
r right and left.=C2=A0 Did not balance brake drums or anything else.=C2=A0=
 Now only a little shake which is acceptable.=C2=A0 Best $200 I ever spent =
on my BJ8, along with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a little more.<=
/span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> =C2=A0</s=
pan></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hard to fi=
nd a garage which has the equipment.=C2=A0 You need to do an in-depth searc=
h for Shaving Tires Near Me.=C2=A0 Fortunately, I found a great guy with th=
e original equipment 2 hours drive across the state of Florida.=C2=A0 Note,=
 you may find garages listed that only have equipment for Truck Tires.</spa=
n></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> =C2=A0</s=
pan></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob Begani=
</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Punta Gord=
a Florida</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> =C2=A0</s=
pan></div>

<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<div><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8---clutch and &quot;SS&quot; aka--scuttle =
shake</div>
</div>
</div>

<div> =C2=A0</div>

<div>
<div>Agreed, I had the tires shaved and the rear brake drums balanced - now=
 no scuttle shake.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div><br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Jul 8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:micha=
elsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:</div>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"margin-left:0.5in">=EF=BB=BF</div>

<div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:n=
one;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-l=
eft:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div> =C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div>
<div>Second------for the years I have had this car, I have hated the dreade=
d scuttle shake.=C2=A0 I have balanced all wheels--even added the scuttle s=
hake &quot;mod&quot;=C2=A0 (cross beams on the inner body, behind the engin=
e) and had the rear drums balanced locally.=C2=A0 All to no avail-----betwe=
en 55 and 65 there is comes again!!=C2=A0 The drive was wonderful all the w=
hile as long as I drove slower or faster than these speeds.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div> =C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div>
<div>What to do------what to do???</div>
</div>

<div>
<div> =C2=A0</div>
</div>

<div>
<div>Any thoughts would be appreciated.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div>Tom</div>
</div>

<div>
<div> =C2=A0</div>
</div>
</div>
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