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Allen Hendrix=E2=80=99s theory about why modern cars don=E2=80=99t need =
shaved tires is that the suspension systems are much better at absorbing =
the contribution of out-of-round tires to the vibration, and the stiffer =
unit-construction chassis is also a factor.
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Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mitch =
Simmons
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 6:28 AM
To: Tom Felts
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake
=20
I had the brake drums balanced ,new vrendstein tires,new Dayton 60 spoke =
wheels=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..no scuttle shake=E2=80=A6smooth as silk (at =
any speed)
The brake drums (original untouched) were way off balance
=20
Mitch
On Jul 8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote:
=20
I have no scuttle shake on my 66 E-Type OTS and it is smooth as silk at =
all speeds. Why would a Healey or any car be any different? If this was =
a function of the tires, would'nt we see tires being shaved on many =
different cars? I have this strange suspicion it is unique to the =
Healey.
=20
=20
=20
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----- Original Message -----
From: rfbegani@gmail.com
To: 'Team.net <http://team.net/> ' <lawrence.swift@gmail.com>, 'Michael =
Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 12:58:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle shake
=20
https://tinyurl.com/jnd85dvk Youtube showing how they do it on the car =
and the equipment.
=20
From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:57 PM
To: 'Team.net <http://team.net/> ' <lawrence.swift@gmail.com>; 'Michael =
Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: "SS" aka--scuttle shake
=20
I had the tires shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to =
the position the car. The best were on the front right left and the =
worst were rear right and left. Did not balance brake drums or anything =
else. Now only a little shake which is acceptable. Best $200 I ever =
spent on my BJ8, along with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a =
little more.
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Hard to find a garage which has the equipment. You need to do an =
in-depth search for Shaving Tires Near Me. Fortunately, I found a great =
guy with the original equipment 2 hours drive across the state of =
Florida. Note, you may find garages listed that only have equipment for =
Truck Tires.
=20
Bob Begani
Punta Gorda Florida
=20
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Team.net =
<http://team.net/>=20
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8---clutch and "SS" aka--scuttle shake
=20
Agreed, I had the tires shaved and the rear brake drums balanced - now =
no scuttle shake.
=20
On Jul 8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
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Second------for the years I have had this car, I have hated the dreaded =
scuttle shake. I have balanced all wheels--even added the scuttle shake =
"mod" (cross beams on the inner body, behind the engine) and had the =
rear drums balanced locally. All to no avail-----between 55 and 65 =
there is comes again!! The drive was wonderful all the while as long as =
I drove slower or faster than these speeds.
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What to do------what to do???
=20
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Tom
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Allen Hendrix=E2=80=99s theory about why modern cars =
don=E2=80=99t need shaved
tires is that the suspension systems are much better at absorbing the
contribution of out-of-round tires to the vibration, and the stiffer
unit-construction chassis is also a factor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mitch =
Simmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 9, 2021 6:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom Felts<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle =
shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I had the brake drums balanced ,new vrendstein =
tires,new
Dayton 60 spoke wheels=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..no scuttle =
shake=E2=80=A6smooth as silk (at any speed)<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The brake drums (original untouched) were way off =
balance<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Mitch<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Tom Felts <<a
href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>tomfelts@windstream.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I =
have no
scuttle shake on my 66 E-Type OTS and it is smooth as silk at all =
speeds. Why
would a Healey or any car be any different? If this was a function of =
the
tires, would'nt we see tires being shaved on many different cars? I have =
this
strange suspicion it is unique to the Healey.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-----
Original Message -----<br>
From:<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>
To: '<a href=3D"http://team.net/";>Team.net</a>' <<a
href=3D"mailto:lawrence.swift@gmail.com";>lawrence.swift@gmail.com</a>>=
,
'Michael Salter' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><b=
r>
Cc: 'healeys' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 12:58:48 -0400 (EDT)<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] "SS" aka--scuttle =
shake<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href=3D"https://tinyurl.com/jnd85dvk"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://tinyurl.com/jnd85dvk</a>
Youtube showing how they do it on the car and the =
equipment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span>=
<span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, =
July 8,
2021 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>'<a
href=3D"http://team.net/";>Team.net</a>' <<a
href=3D"mailto:lawrence.swift@gmail.com";>lawrence.swift@gmail.com</a>>=
;
'Michael Salter' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>'healeys' =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>"SS"
aka--scuttle shake<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I had the =
tires
shaved and balanced and the tech marked each tire as to the position the
car. The best were on the front right left and the worst were rear =
right
and left. Did not balance brake drums or anything else. Now =
only a
little shake which is acceptable. Best $200 I ever spent on my =
BJ8, along
with the new Michelin 180 tires which cost a little =
more.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span>=
<span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hard to find =
a garage
which has the equipment. You need to do an in-depth search for =
Shaving
Tires Near Me. Fortunately, I found a great guy with the original
equipment 2 hours drive across the state of Florida. Note, you may =
find
garages listed that only have equipment for Truck =
Tires.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span>=
<span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bob =
Begani</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Punta Gorda =
Florida</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span>=
<span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Healeys <<a
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></b><a =
href=3D"http://team.net/";>Team.net</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, =
July 8,
2021 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Michael =
Salter <<a
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>healeys =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: =
[Healeys]
BJ8---clutch and "SS" aka--scuttle shake<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Agreed,
I had the tires shaved and the rear brake drums balanced - now no =
scuttle
shake.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul
8, 2021, at 09:16, Michael Salter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";
target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC =
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>=
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Second------=
for
the years I have had this car, I have hated the dreaded scuttle =
shake. I
have balanced all wheels--even added the scuttle shake =
"mod"
(cross beams on the inner body, behind the engine) and had the rear =
drums
balanced locally. All to no avail-----between 55 and 65 there is =
comes
again!! The drive was wonderful all the while as long as I drove =
slower
or faster than these speeds.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What
to do------what to do???<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Any
thoughts would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tom<o:p></o:=
p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
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