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Re: [Healeys] Auxiliary electric fan

To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Auxiliary electric fan
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 22:09:31 -0400
Cc: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl>, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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"Overheating" is an imprecise term and so long as the rad does not boil
over and/or the carbs go into vapor lock the fact that the indicated temp
is at or slightly above 212 is not a conversation stopper.
For those really challenging situations where traffic is stop and go, etc.
I turn on the auxiliary fan ASAP and place some duct tape over the temp
gauge so I will not constantly look at it.  If things get drastic the car
will tell you....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 8:55 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Honestly I have never found a downside to it.  Actually my experience is
> at 190 some stuff gets loose on the car, so at 165 stuff seems to run
> better.  180 works okay but I prefer to have a wide mouth thermostat like
> the Waller, then that's okay too.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:51 AM richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What is the down side of running a 165 degree thermostat?  Is your engine
>> not running at optimum efficiency?  I have been led to believe that an
>> engine's optimum running temperature is somewhere around 185 - 190 degrees.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 6:07 PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Kees -
>>>
>>> Living in hot and tropical climates like I have, I can confirm that
>>> using cooler thermostats helps a great deal to reduce heat spikes in
>>> traffic, as there is significantly less heat energy stored in the coolant
>>> at 165F vs 180F.  That combined with a well sorted system will be
>>> sufficient to give you a few more minutes at idle than if you were running
>>> a 180 or 190F thermostat on a very hot day.
>>>
>>> You are correct it technically will not prevent overheating, but it will
>>> postpone it long enough until you get driving again.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:48 PM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A thermostat with a lower opening temperature does not prevent
>>>> overheating. It may buy you some time before the engine overheats but if
>>>> you are long enough in a traffic jam it will overheat eventually. A more
>>>> powerful fixed fan may alleviate the problem a bit but the only real
>>>> solution will be a properly installed electric fan.
>>>>
>>>> I have done this from the sixties on all my cars that had a fixed fan.
>>>> However even in those days many of the more powerful cars were already
>>>> equipped with thermostatically controlled radiator fans.
>>>>
>>>> An electric fan does not solve overheating because of other issues like
>>>> a dirty or blocked radiator, silted up engine, faulty cowling etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">&quot=
;Overheating&quot; is an imprecise term and so long as the rad does not boi=
l over and/or the carbs go into vapor lock the fact that the indicated temp=
 is at or slightly above 212 is not a conversation stopper.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">For those really challenging sit=
uations where traffic is stop and go, etc. I turn on the auxiliary fan ASAP=
 and place some duct tape over the temp gauge so I will not constantly look=
 at it.=C2=A0 If things get drastic the car will tell=C2=A0you....</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul =
22, 2021 at 8:55 PM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.co=
m">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Honestly I have never found a downs=
ide to it.=C2=A0 Actually my experience is at 190 some stuff gets loose on =
the car, so at 165 stuff seems to run better.=C2=A0 180 works okay but I pr=
efer to have a wide mouth thermostat like the Waller, then that&#39;s okay =
too.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:51 AM richard mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boy=
racer466@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>What is the down side of running a 165 degree thermostat?=C2=A0 Is your en=
gine not running at optimum efficiency?=C2=A0 I have been led to believe th=
at an engine&#39;s optimum running temperature is somewhere around 185 - 19=
0 degrees.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 6:07 PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Kees -<div><br></div><div>Living in hot and tro=
pical climates like I have, I can confirm that using cooler thermostats hel=
ps a great deal=C2=A0to reduce heat spikes in traffic, as there is signific=
antly less heat energy stored in the coolant at 165F vs 180F.=C2=A0 That co=
mbined with a well sorted system will be sufficient to give you a few more =
minutes at idle than if you were running a 180 or 190F thermostat on a very=
 hot day.</div><div><br></div><div>You are correct it technically will not =
prevent overheating, but it will postpone it long enough until you get driv=
ing again.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:48 PM Kees Oudesluijs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cou=
desluijs@upcmail.nl" target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@upcmail.nl</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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<div><p>A thermostat with a lower opening temperature does not prevent over=
heating. It may buy you some time before the engine overheats but if you ar=
e long enough in a traffic jam it will overheat eventually. A more powerful=
 fixed fan may alleviate the problem a bit but the only real solution will =
be a properly installed electric fan.<br></p><p>I have done this from the s=
ixties on all my cars that had a fixed fan. However even in those days many=
 of the more powerful cars were already equipped with thermostatically cont=
rolled radiator fans.<br></p><p>An electric fan does not solve overheating =
because of other issues like a dirty or blocked radiator, silted up engine,=
 faulty cowling etc.<br></p><p><br></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<br></p></div>
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