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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing
From: Elton S <eps2660@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 13:27:42 -0400
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Very interesting, Simon. Thanks for the update.
Elton

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:29 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my
> OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This bein=
g
> subsequent to it frying its solenoid.
>
> I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as
> ever, very grateful.
>
> I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, =
cross
> fingers, resolved.
>
>
>
> So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in over=
drive so that was
> a relief.
>
> I was further able to determine that I could set it by every means from a
> dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and=
 it would
> seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine runnin=
g and the box in 3
> rd or 4th and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.
>
> I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to
> work.
>
> In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 19=
0
> miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested
> motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arri=
ved,
> 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.
>
> Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=
=93 found two issues which,
> together, were causing the problem:-
>
> 1)      The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no
> amount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just o=
ut
> of the box).
>
> 2)      More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever hea=
rd of this one =E2=80=93
> the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s=
 plunger and which
> turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was h=
appening
> was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in t=
he OD and
> I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and th=
e pinch
> was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be abl=
e
> to move the rod that lifts the ball.
>
> Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synop=
sis of
> what was going on.
>
> Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D s=
olenoids are not really
> Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave me a used one=
 out of
> stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch lever thingie for an
> NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look carefully at any
> new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enoug=
h to fix
> it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make it a fraction wider.
>
> Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99l=
l all
> work when I get it all back together.
>
> Simon Lachlan
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Very interesting, Simon. Thanks for the update.<div>Elton<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:29 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB=
"><div class=3D"gmail-m_7938553179058822165WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to=
 my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This be=
ing subsequent to it frying its solenoid.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, =
as ever, very grateful.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought t=
hat I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers=
, resolved.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it=
 was not stuck in overdrive so that was a relief.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I was further able to determine that I could set it by every=
 means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99=
d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I g=
ot the engine running and the box in 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> and r=
unning at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing=
 to work. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the end, I took the g=
earbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge d=
istance, I know, but a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that=
 they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going unt=
il it was fixed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=
=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues =
which, together, were causing the problem:-<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"gm=
ail-m_7938553179058822165MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>1)<span style=
=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </=
span></span></span><u></u><span>The solenoid had an intermittent failure wh=
ich was internal ie no amount of dicking around with the points could fix i=
t. (Brand new, just out of the box).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gm=
ail-m_7938553179058822165MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>2)<span style=
=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </=
span></span></span><u></u><span>More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time=
 I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=
=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the s=
haft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was happening was =
this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in the OD =
and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and =
the pinch was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and no=
t be able to move the rod that lifts the ball.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=
=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what was going on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new=
 =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.jus=
t made to look like Lucas. He gave me a used one out of stock, genuine arti=
cle. And he swapped my new pinch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item w=
as also brand new so you might look carefully at any new ones that you buy.=
 May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a =
hack saw through the split and make it a fraction wider.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Anyhow, the box is still on the garage f=
loor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work when I get it all back together=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon Lachlan<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></di=
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