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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing
From: Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:40:59 -0700
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Simon, you deserve a medal

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:29 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my
> OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This bein=
g
> subsequent to it frying its solenoid.
>
> I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as
> ever, very grateful.
>
> I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, =
cross
> fingers, resolved.
>
>
>
> So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in over=
drive so that was
> a relief.
>
> I was further able to determine that I could set it by every means from a
> dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and=
 it would
> seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine runnin=
g and the box in 3
> rd or 4th and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.
>
> I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to
> work.
>
> In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 19=
0
> miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested
> motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arri=
ved,
> 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.
>
> Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=
=93 found two issues which,
> together, were causing the problem:-
>
> 1)      The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no
> amount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just o=
ut
> of the box).
>
> 2)      More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever hea=
rd of this one =E2=80=93
> the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s=
 plunger and which
> turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was h=
appening
> was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in t=
he OD and
> I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and th=
e pinch
> was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be abl=
e
> to move the rod that lifts the ball.
>
> Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synop=
sis of
> what was going on.
>
> Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D s=
olenoids are not really
> Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave me a used one=
 out of
> stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch lever thingie for an
> NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look carefully at any
> new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enoug=
h to fix
> it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make it a fraction wider.
>
> Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99l=
l all
> work when I get it all back together.
>
> Simon Lachlan
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Simon, you deserve a medal</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:29 AM Si=
mon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-86690=
40587305027159WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Back in mid-April I post=
ed a long and detailed question with regard to my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t=
 appear to be coming out of overdrive. This being subsequent to it frying i=
ts solenoid.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I received a LOT of de=
tailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.<u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up =
to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overdrive s=
o that was a relief.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was further =
able to determine that I could set it by every means from a dial gauge, the=
 drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to=
 be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine running and the=
 box in 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> and running at +/- 500psi, it all =
went wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I tried everything, spe=
nt hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to work. <u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up t=
o OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA w=
ith our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it a=
s soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man=
 on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues which, together, were causing =
the problem:-<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListPar=
agraph"><u></u><span><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><u></u><span>T=
he solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no amount of =
dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out of the bo=
x).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListParagr=
aph"><u></u><span><span>2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><u></u><span>More=
 interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one=
 =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=
=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tigh=
tened up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the busine=
ss when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie ther=
e was no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Th=
en, under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lift=
s the ball.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Particular=
ly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what =
was going on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Dave sai=
d what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids a=
re not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave m=
e a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch lev=
er thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look =
carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=
=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make=
 it a fraction wider.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=
Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll =
all work when I get it all back together.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon Lachlan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>________________________________=
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