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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing
From: healeyguy--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 18:04:08 +0000 (UTC)
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SimonThanks for the update. Once again our "friends" that supply replacemen=
t parts have failed to do quality control on the stuff they produce or have=
 produced for our consumption.=C2=A0P


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:26 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

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40 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv1973589540 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}-->Back in =
mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my OD, how i=
t didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This being subsequen=
t to it frying its solenoid.I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and ad=
vice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.I thought that I=E2=80=99d brin=
g you up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved. =C2=A0So=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overdriv=
e so that was a relief.I was further able to determine that I could set it =
by every means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=
=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But=
 when I got the engine running and the box in 3rd or 4th and running at +/-=
 500psi, it all went wrong.I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT=
 get the bloody thing to work. In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugge=
d it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but=
 a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d star=
t on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.Dave=
 =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 foun=
d two issues which, together, were causing the problem:-1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal=
 ie no amount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, j=
ust out of the box).2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 More interestingly =E2=
=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=80=93 the pin=
ch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger =
and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. Wh=
at was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was n=
o pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance=
 from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Then, under pressure,=
 it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lifts the ball.Particul=
arly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of wha=
t was going on.Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLuc=
as=E2=80=9D solenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to loo=
k like Lucas. He gave me a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he s=
wapped my new pinch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand=
 new so you might look carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad=
 batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw thro=
ugh the split and make it a fraction wider.Anyhow, the box is still on the =
garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work when I get it all back =
together.Simon Lachlan =C2=A0


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<div>Simon</div>
Thanks for the update. Once again our "friends" that supply replacement par=
ts have failed to do quality control on the stuff they produce or have prod=
uced for our consumption.&nbsp;
<div>P<br>
<br>
<br>

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: 'Healeys' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:26 pm<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">Back in mid-April I posted a long and=
 detailed question with regard to my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be=
 coming out of overdrive. This being subsequent to it frying its solenoid.<=
/div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I received a LOT of detailed suggesti=
ons and advice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you =
up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to det=
ermine that it was not stuck in overdrive so that was a relief.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I was further able to determine that =
I could set it by every means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimate=
s, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=
=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine running and the box in 3<sup>rd</sup> =
or 4<sup>th</sup> and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I tried everything, spent hours on it=
. Could NOT get the bloody thing to work. </div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">In the end, I took the gearbox out an=
d lugged it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I kn=
ow, but a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=
=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going until it was f=
ixed.</div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99=
s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues which, to=
gether, were causing the problem:-</div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoListParagraph"><span style=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D"">The sole=
noid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no amount of dicking=
 around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out of the box).</sp=
an></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoListParagraph"><span style=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D"">More int=
erestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=
=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=
=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tighten=
ed up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business =
when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there w=
as no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Then,=
 under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lifts t=
he ball.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Particula=
rly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what=
 was going on.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Dave said=
 what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids ar=
e not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave me=
 a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch leve=
r thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look c=
arefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=
=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make=
 it a fraction wider.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Anyhow, t=
he box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work =
when I get it all back together.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon Lac=
hlan</span></div>

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