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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

To: Roland Wilhelmy <sentenac.rw@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing
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Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 13:54:13 -0400
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> On May 4, 2022, at 13:44, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Simon, you deserve a medal
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:29 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>> Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my=
 OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This being s=
ubsequent to it frying its solenoid.
>>=20
>> I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as ev=
er, very grateful.
>>=20
>> I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, c=
ross fingers, resolved.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in over=
drive so that was a relief.
>>=20
>> I was further able to determine that I could set it by every means from a=
 dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and i=
t would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine r=
unning and the box in 3rd or 4th and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wron=
g.
>>=20
>> I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to w=
ork.
>>=20
>> In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 19=
0 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested mot=
orways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 0=
8:30, and keep going until it was fixed.
>>=20
>> Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93=
 found two issues which, together, were causing the problem:-
>>=20
>> 1)      The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no=
 amount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out=
 of the box).
>>=20
>> 2)      More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever hea=
rd of this one =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto t=
he solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could n=
ot be tightened up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do t=
he business when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set.=
 ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight eno=
ugh. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod tha=
t lifts the ball.
>>=20
>> Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synop=
sis of what was going on.
>>=20
>> Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D s=
olenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. H=
e gave me a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pi=
nch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might=
 look carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=
=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and ma=
ke it a fraction wider.
>>=20
>> Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99l=
l all work when I get it all back together.
>>=20
>> Simon Lachlan
>>=20
>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=F0=
=9F=91=8D</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 4, 2022=
, at 13:44, Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Simon, you deserve a medal</div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:29 AM S=
imon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-8669040587=
305027159WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Back in mid-April I posted a l=
ong and detailed question with regard to my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear=
 to be coming out of overdrive. This being subsequent to it frying its solen=
oid.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I received a LOT of detailed su=
ggestions and advice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.<u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date wit=
h the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overdrive so that was a rel=
ief.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was further able to determine=
 that I could set it by every means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesst=
imates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust r=
ight=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine running and the box in 3<sup>rd</su=
p> or 4<sup>th</sup> and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could N=
OT get the bloody thing to work. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In=
 the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 190 mil=
es away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested motorway=
s. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30,=
 and keep going until it was fixed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 f=
ound two issues which, together, were causing the problem:-<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>1)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span></span></span><u></u><span>The solenoid had an intermittent f=
ailure which was internal ie no amount of dicking around with the points cou=
ld fix it. (Brand new, just out of the box).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>2)<span styl=
e=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <=
/span></span></span><u></u><span>More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time=
 I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=
=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=
=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was happening was this=E2=
=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=
=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch=
 was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be able t=
o move the rod that lifts the ball.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span>Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sens=
ible synopsis of what was going on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span>Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=
=80=9D solenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like=
 Lucas. He gave me a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped m=
y new pinch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so y=
ou might look carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out=
 there=E2=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the spl=
it and make it a fraction wider.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span>Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=
=80=99ll all work when I get it all back together.<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon Lachlan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div></div>____________________________=
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