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Re: [Healeys] It's not the starter

To: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's not the starter
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 10:06:40 +0200
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6 teeth sounds like a seized cam or something else preventing it from
turning.  I would remove the front cover an take a look there first.

M

On Mon., May 23, 2022, 5:00 a.m. Al Fuller via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Do you have a horoscope? You could take a look in the cylinders.
>
> If they look good, consider checking the starter contactor. If the batter=
y
> is good, starter is good and no obvious issues in the cylinders, maybe tr=
y
> pulling the spark plugs and see if you can turn it over.
>
> ________________
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
> On Sun, May 22, 2022, 7:27 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> A problem to consider.
>>
>>
>>
>> Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder.
>> Rebuilt about five years back, but seen next to no use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be the battery so
>> charged it, but no change.  Tried a brand new battery, but still no
>> movement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Out comes the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away
>> on the floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under
>> load?
>>
>>
>>
>> It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels
>> not fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel,
>> after removing the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gea=
r,
>> but no more. It moves back the same in the other direction, but no furth=
er.
>> Soon lose interest in this manoeuvre.
>>
>>
>>
>> What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99t the engine turn over? Thinking cap =
on and perhaps
>> it=E2=80=99s something at the top of the engine such as valve gear. Perh=
aps there
>> is a bent valve?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any opinions out there?
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick Quinn
>>
>> Blue Mountains, Australia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">6 teeth sounds like a seized cam or something else preven=
ting it from turning.=C2=A0 I would remove the front cover an take a look t=
here first.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., Ma=
y 23, 2022, 5:00 a.m. Al Fuller via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Do you have a horoscope? You could tak=
e a look in the cylinders.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If =
they look good, consider checking the starter contactor. If the battery is =
good, starter is good and no obvious issues in the cylinders, maybe try pul=
ling the spark plugs and see if you can turn it over.<br><br><div data-smar=
tmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">________________<br>Best Regards,<br=
>Al Fuller</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 22, 2022, 7:27 AM Patrick &amp; Caroline =
Quinn via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"=
#954F72" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello<u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">A problem to consider.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Went to turn the engine over =
in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder. Rebuilt about five years back, =
but seen next to no use.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Solenoid clicks, but no movement from =
the engine. Must be the battery so charged it, but no change.=C2=A0 Tried a=
 brand new battery, but still no movement.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Out comes the starte=
r and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on the floor. Perhaps =
the original Lucas starter is breaking down under load?<u></u><u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It occu=
rs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels not fitte=
d so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after removi=
ng the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but no more.=
 It moves back the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon lose i=
nterest in this manoeuvre. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99=
t the engine turn over? Thinking cap on and perhaps it=E2=80=99s something =
at the top of the engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a bent valve?=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Any opinions out there?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Austr=
alia<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
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