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Hello
Thank you David.
It is a 100S gearbox with a grafted overdrive. It=E2=80=99s been like that =
since it was built by the DHMC in the early 1950s. Plus a BJ8 clutch and pr=
essure plate which was there when I bought it in 1974, so heavens knows whe=
re that came from.
No problems with that previously.
Hoo Roo
Patrick
From: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 28 May 2022 11:38 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's not the starter
Which transmission is in the BN3. If you put a later clutch cover in a 3 sp=
eed trans. The cover will hit the bell housing, only allowing the engine to=
move a little turn. Same problem on the early BN4 transmission. There is a=
casting inside the housing that if you installed the later 3000 style clut=
ch cover. It will hit and cause the problem you are explaining.
David Nock
Sent from my iPhone
On May 27, 2022, at 11:38 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au=
=EF=BB=BF
Hello
Thank you to all who replied.
It remains a mystery. I had an AH owning mechanic here today to trying a wo=
rk out what=E2=80=99s happening with the engine of the BN3.
Plugs are out as is the starter. By putting a mark on the harmonic balancer=
and the use of a large screwdriver we found out that the engine will turn =
a quarter turn and back the other way a quarter turn before it stops solid.=
So it will be a process of elimination starting with an endoscope in a few =
days. The radiator has been removed (no mean feat as it comes out via the g=
rille opening) to gain access to the crankshaft nut and timing cover.
Will keep you informed.
Hoo Roo
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
=2Eteam.net> > On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2022 9:26 PM
Subject: [Healeys] It's not the starter
Hello
A problem to consider.
Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder. Re=
built about five years back, but seen next to no use.
Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be the battery so ch=
arged it, but no change. Tried a brand new battery, but still no movement.=
Out comes the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on=
the floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under load?=
It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels no=
t fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after=
removing the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but n=
o more. It moves back the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon=
lose interest in this manoeuvre.
What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99t the engine turn over? Thinking cap on =
and perhaps it=E2=80=99s something at the top of the engine such as valve g=
ear. Perhaps there is a bent valve?
Any opinions out there?
Many thanks
Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you =
David.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It is a 100S gearbox with a grafted overdrive. =
It=E2=80=99s been like that since it was built by the DHMC in the early =
1950s. Plus a BJ8 clutch and pressure plate which was there when I =
bought it in 1974, so heavens knows where that came =
from.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>No problems with that previously.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> David Nock =
<healeydoc@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 28 May 2022 11:38 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Patrick & Caroline Quinn =
<p_cquinn@tpg.com.au><br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] It's not the =
starter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Which transmission is in the BN3. If you =
put a later clutch cover in a 3 speed trans. The cover will hit the bell =
housing, only allowing the engine to move a little turn. Same problem on =
the early BN4 transmission. There is a casting inside the housing that =
if you installed the later 3000 style clutch cover. It will hit and =
cause the problem you are explaining. <span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>David Nock<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent =
from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 27, 2022, at 11:38 PM, Patrick =
& Caroline Quinn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you to =
all who replied.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It remains a =
mystery. I had an AH owning mechanic here today to trying a work out =
what=E2=80=99s happening with the engine of the BN3.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Plugs are =
out as is the starter. By putting a mark on the harmonic balancer and =
the use of a large screwdriver we found out that the engine will turn a =
quarter turn and back the other way a quarter turn before it stops =
solid.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So it will be a process of elimination starting with =
an endoscope in a few days. The radiator has been removed (no mean feat =
as it comes out via the grille opening) to gain access to the crankshaft =
nut and timing cover.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Will keep =
you informed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick & Caroline Quinn via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 22 May 2022 9:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> [Healeys] It's not the =
starter</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A problem to =
consider.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early =
C-Series six-cylinder. Rebuilt about five years back, but seen next to =
no use.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must =
be the battery so charged it, but no change. Tried a brand new =
battery, but still no movement.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Out comes =
the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on the =
floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under =
load?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by =
hand. Gearbox tunnels not fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to =
leaver the flywheel, after removing the spark plugs. It moves about six =
teeth of the ring gear, but no more. It moves back the same in the other =
direction, but no further. Soon lose interest in this manoeuvre. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What=E2=80=99s up? Why won=E2=80=99t the engine turn =
over? Thinking cap on and perhaps it=E2=80=99s something at the top of =
the engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a bent =
valve?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any opinions out there?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Many =
thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue =
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
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