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To: "'Patrick & Caroline Quinn'" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's not the starter
From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 16:37:18 +1000
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Hello

 

Thank you to all who replied.

 

It remains a mystery. I had an AH owning mechanic here today to trying a
work out what's happening with the engine of the BN3.

 

Plugs are out as is the starter. By putting a mark on the harmonic balancer
and the use of a large screwdriver we found out that the engine will turn a
quarter turn and back the other way a quarter turn before it stops solid.

 

So it will be a process of elimination starting with an endoscope in a few
days. The radiator has been removed (no mean feat as it comes out via the
grille opening) to gain access to the crankshaft nut and timing cover.

 

Will keep you informed.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Patrick &
Caroline Quinn via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2022 9:26 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] It's not the starter

 

Hello

 

A problem to consider.

 

Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder.
Rebuilt about five years back, but seen next to no use.

 

Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be the battery so
charged it, but no change.  Tried a brand new battery, but still no
movement.

 

Out comes the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on
the floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under load?

 

It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels not
fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after
removing the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but no
more. It moves back the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon
lose interest in this manoeuvre. 

 

What's up? Why won't the engine turn over? Thinking cap on and perhaps it's
something at the top of the engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a
bent valve?

 

Any opinions out there?

 

Many thanks

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

 

 

 


 
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank you to =
all who replied.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It remains a =
mystery. I had an AH owning mechanic here today to trying a work out =
what&#8217;s happening with the engine of the BN3.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Plugs are =
out as is the starter. By putting a mark on the harmonic balancer and =
the use of a large screwdriver we found out that the engine will turn a =
quarter turn and back the other way a quarter turn before it stops =
solid.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So it will be a process of elimination starting with =
an endoscope in a few days. The radiator has been removed (no mean feat =
as it comes out via the grille opening) to gain access to the crankshaft =
nut and timing cover.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Will keep =
you informed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick &amp; =
Caroline Quinn via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 22 May 2022 9:26 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
It's not the starter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A problem to =
consider.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early =
C-Series six-cylinder. Rebuilt about five years back, but seen next to =
no use.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must =
be the battery so charged it, but no change.&nbsp; Tried a brand new =
battery, but still no movement.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Out comes =
the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on the =
floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under =
load?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by =
hand. Gearbox tunnels not fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to =
leaver the flywheel, after removing the spark plugs. It moves about six =
teeth of the ring gear, but no more. It moves back the same in the other =
direction, but no further. Soon lose interest in this manoeuvre. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What&#8217;s up? Why won&#8217;t the engine turn over? =
Thinking cap on and perhaps it&#8217;s something at the top of the =
engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a bent =
valve?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any opinions out there?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Many =
thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue =
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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