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Re: [Healeys] Stainless exhaust again

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stainless exhaust again
From: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 19:10:10 -0400
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Well, this is all grist for the mill. I already have the stainless =
system, so that=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99m working with.
My old stainless system lasted me almost 35 years.
Thanks for the thoughts and advice.

Stephen, BJ8

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Yes Jean absolutely true. It's salt that kills exhaust systems =
although the VERY thin steel that the flex pipes are formed from doesn't =
last that long even without salt.=20
> Mild steel pipe with stainless flex is a perfectly satisfactory =
solution.=20
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Mon., Jun. 13, 2022, 5:55 p.m. Jean Caron, =
<vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com =
> With the few miles we put on our cars each year  I simply cannot see =
the need for stainless steel exhaust when a MD steel one will last 20 + =
years anyway.
>=20
> Jean
>=20
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> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 4:50:18 PM
> To: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com =
> Cc: healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net =
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Stainless exhaust again
> =20
> I make my own front pipes for 100's because the cheapo repos are so =
terrible.=20
> I use mild steel for the pipes, which I actually had mandrel bent in =
New Zealand because no one in Canada seemed to be able to bend them to =
the correct radius but, and pretty soon I'll get to the point of this =
email, I weld the stainless flex to the mild steel with my TIG welder.=20=

> I use mild steel for the pipes because I have yet to see a front pipe =
that has rusted through unless the car is driven extensively on salted =
roads.
> I'm sure anyone who does TIG welding could do the welding for you in =
mild steel but if you are prepared to pay handsomely FAB Stainless =
Welding could do them in stainless 905 669 7400 ask for Frank.
> BTW the stainless steel flex seems to leak slightly when first =
installed but that stops after a little use, the gaps probably fill with =
carbon.
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Mon., Jun. 13, 2022, 3:54 p.m. Stephen Hutchings, =
> Just thought I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date on my quest for a leak =
free exhaust.
> The new downpipes arrive today, and I did a test on them before going =
to the trouble of putting them on the car.
> Well=E2=80=A6Bell exhaust systems need new welders, because the two =
pipes both leak at the welds AND through the flex pipe!=20
> I=E2=80=99m trying to find someone local to fix them, but most muffler =
shops say they can't weld stainless.
> If anyone knows someone in the Toronto area who can do this work, =
please let me know.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Stephen, BJ8
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Well,=
 this is all grist for the mill. I already have the stainless system, so =
that=E2=80=99s what I=E2=80=99m working with.<div class=3D"">My old =
stainless system lasted me almost 35 years.</div><div class=3D"">Thanks =
for the thoughts and advice.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Stephen, BJ8<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun =
13, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Yes Jean absolutely true. It's salt that kills exhaust =
systems although the VERY thin steel that the flex pipes are formed from =
doesn't last that long even without salt.&nbsp;<div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Mild steel pipe with stainless flex is a perfectly =
satisfactory solution.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">M</div></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., Jun. 13, 2022, 5:55 p.m. Jean Caron, =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; =
class=3D"">vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">With the few miles we put on our cars each =
year&nbsp; I simply cannot see the need for stainless steel exhaust when =
a MD steel one will last 20 + years anyway.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Jean</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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<div id=3D"m_-92976570494371058ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s =
largest network.</div>
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class=3D"">From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on =
behalf of Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2022 4:50:18 PM<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">To:</b> Stephen Hutchings &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:s.hutchings@rogers.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">s.hutchings@rogers.com</a>&gt;<br =
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<b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Stainless exhaust again</font>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I make my own front pipes for 100's because =
the cheapo repos are so terrible.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I use mild steel for the pipes, which I =
actually had mandrel bent in New Zealand because no one in Canada seemed =
to be able to bend them to the correct radius but, and pretty soon I'll =
get to the point of this email, I weld the stainless flex
 to the mild steel with my TIG welder.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I use mild steel for the pipes because I =
have yet to see a front pipe that has rusted through unless the car is =
driven extensively on salted roads.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I'm sure anyone who does TIG welding could =
do the welding for you in mild steel but if you are prepared to pay =
handsomely FAB Stainless Welding could do them in stainless 905 669 7400 =
ask for Frank.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">BTW the stainless steel flex seems to leak =
slightly when first installed but that stops after a little use, the =
gaps probably fill with carbon.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">M</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Mon., Jun. 13, 2022, 3:54 p.m. Stephen =
Hutchings, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s.hutchings@rogers.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">s.hutchings@rogers.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D"">
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex" class=3D"">
Just thought I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date on my quest for a leak =
free exhaust.<br class=3D"">
The new downpipes arrive today, and I did a test on them before going to =
the trouble of putting them on the car.<br class=3D"">
Well=E2=80=A6Bell exhaust systems need new welders, because the two =
pipes both leak at the welds AND through the flex pipe!
<br class=3D"">
I=E2=80=99m trying to find someone local to fix them, but most muffler =
shops say they can't weld stainless.<br class=3D"">
If anyone knows someone in the Toronto area who can do this work, please =
let me know.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Thanks,<br class=3D"">
Stephen, BJ8<br class=3D"">
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