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RE: Speed Kills (No LBC content)

To: "Kevin & Deana Brown" <MGTRAutoXr@sprintmail.com>
Subject: RE: Speed Kills (No LBC content)
From: "Larry Hoy" <larryhoy@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:18:30 -0700
Kevin,

>the judge came back and fined me $300

Well you were one of the unlucky ones.  The biggest problem you faced was two 
of them, one of you.  When it is one on one, and they
loose visual, you win.  Unless they can convince the Judge they got your plate 
number.  I actually have two first hand experiences
with this, neither involve me.  In Minnesota I was in court when I saw this 
work, and then later in Colorado the same deal.

> Once I get the MGB V8 running I will have to watch it, but again it won't 
>look to fast.

Here's a tip.  Paint the MG brown, everyone knows brown cars are slow! 
(asbestos suit on)

>watch out driving I 70 through Laffayette County, MO

Ah, I just came across I-70 through MO on Sunday.  According to my trip 
computer (no, not the MG, the Jag) I averaged 85mph.  Made
it, whew!

Larry Hoy

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin & Deana Brown [mailto:MGTRAutoXr@sprintmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 7:20 PM
>To: Larry Hoy
>Cc: Rick Ehlert; Alpines; MG List
>Subject: Re: Speed Kills (No LBC content)
>
>
>Larry,
>
>That was what I always thought until I walked out of a store onlt to find cops 
>all around my car (a 96 Z28 30th anniversary editon
>(white with orange stripes).  They issued me a ticket for 115 in a 70.  
>Apparently a similar car outran them and a local police
>officer spotted mine in a parking lot and radiod them.  Two different highway 
>patrol officers swore it was me (even though they met
>the other car at a spot where the interstate lanes are 50 yards apart).  The 
>procecuter wouldn't even discuss it with me until I
>hired a lawer - then their proposed plee bargain was a $500 fine and five days 
>in the county jail (I found out that they
>really want
>to put you in jail in my county if you are driving over 100 mph) after about a 
>year and 5 court appearances (changing to a more
>sympathetic judge etc.) I lost after both cops said it had to be me.  But I 
>don't think that the judge totally believed
>them because
>after the prosecuter proposed a $500 fine and 10 days in jail and my lawer 
>said we would take the fine but how about community
>service instead of the jail time, the judge came back and fined me $300 with 
>no jail time or community service - I was happier than
>heck by that time.  Needless to say I have now changed cars I am driving a 
>four door supercharged Grand Prix - almost as
>fast as the
>Camaro but it doesn't look it.  Once I get the MGB V8 running I will have to 
>watch it, but again it won't look to fast.
>I've decided
>that the stealthy look is for me.
>
>Kevn Brown  '78 MGB V8  '54 MGTF 1500 RHD, '66 MGB  '71 MGB
>Odessa, MO
>
>watch out driving I 70 through Laffayette County, MO
>
>Larry Hoy wrote:
>
>> Rick, if the Patolman ever lost visual contact with you between the time he 
>said you were speeding and the time he stopped you he
>> can't testify that it was YOU that was speeding.
>>
>> Larry Hoy
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net]On
>> >Behalf Of Rick Ehlert
>> >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 8:16 AM
>> >To: Alpines; MG List
>> >Subject: Speed Kills (No LBC content)
>> >
>> >
>> >Boy, do I have a sob story for you guys!!  Thanksgiving morning my family
>> >and I were traveling from Milwaukee to outside of Grand Rapids, MI. to visit
>> >my parents.  The trip was going fine, even with the family dog taking his
>> >first major car ride, when, just into Indiana (East on 80-90,94)  I was
>> >going with the flow of traffic (read: fast!!!)  I came upon a slower car in
>> >the 2nd from left lane (the lane I was also in.)  It was a tinted out black
>> >Z-28 with an extra antenna.  I instantly thought, "why would this tinted out
>> >kid's car be going so slow, when the rest of the left two lanes was
>> >screaming along at 80 mph?  So, I slowed up behind him and stayed there.  He
>> >promptly touched his brakes, I shut off the cruise control.  He touched his
>> >brakes again, I touched mine.  My wife asked what I was doing.  I replied
>> >that ahead of us was a Indiana State trooper, and he could nail someone in
>> >the continuos stream of fast left lane traffic, but he wasn't going to get
>> >me.  He finally pulled out into the left lane, sped up with traffic (80 mph)
>> >and left me sitting there with the cruise now reset on 70 mph.  A couple of
>> >miles later, I saw him pulled over on the left shoulder all alone...just
>> >sitting there.   I didn't think anything more of him, as I was still set at
>> >70 mph.  About 5 minutes later, he came weaving up through traffic, pulled
>> >in behind me, and hit his lights.  (And promptly issued me a citation for 85
>> >in a 55mph!!!!)  We were pulled over into the 65mph zone, but earlier when I
>> >first encountered him, we were in the 55 mph zone.  I was stunned as I was
>> >certainly not the fastest car on the road, I was simply going with the flow
>> >(as to not get RUN OVER) as I have almost been with my Sunbeam and MGB
>> >driving through that area.  And to top it all off,  because the ticket was
>> >written for 29 OVER!!!, I have to appear in court the week of Christmas!
>> >Being such a cronic offender, this my third ticket in the last 11 years, I
>> >need some advice?  Looks like I'm going back to Indiana!!
>> >
>> >Just payin' another tax to drive the road,
>> >Rick Ehlert
>> >Milwaukee, Wi.

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