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Re: A Bouncy Ride

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Subject: Re: A Bouncy Ride
From: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:36:11 -0800
Larry, that was profound... and absolutely true.

(Normally I trim replies but I can't bear to cut this masterpiece.)

on 3/25/04 9:44 PM, Larry list account at list@marketvalue.net wrote:

>> Ok Everyone, I got my Tires at 30lbs all around and the ride
>> is much smoother.  But still at around 60 MPH I'm still
>> experiencing a bouncing steering wheel and a slight bouncing
>> rear.
> 
> 60 mph steering wheel vibration is common, and some would say almost
> incurable in an MGB.  I bet it goes away at higher speeds, right?  Swap the
> front tires with the back tires.  If the vibration goes away suspect either:
> a bent wheel, bad tire, or out of balance situation.  Deal with the
> suspicious tires (two tires if the vibration went away, 4 if it didn't).
> 
> The first thing to check is for visible tire bulges.  If your tires are more
> than 5 years old you may have to bite the bullet and replace them.
> 
> If you have wire wheels I will go out on a limb and say you do have a
> balance problem.  Yes I did read that you had them balanced.
> 
> Don't believe it?  Take them back to the shop that balanced them.  You'll
> likely find the tire shop will re-balance them for free, they will probably
> tell you they are sorry they didn't get it right the first time.  Ask if you
> can watch them re-check them, look closely for wheel and tire wobble.  When
> they are done tell them thanks; then, when they are taking the last one off
> the machine, do one of Columbo's tricks (you remember Columbo don't you?).
> 
> "Ah, I was thinkin', do you suppose you could check them one more time"?
> 
> Ask them to take them off the machine and put them back on again, if they
> are wires they will be out of balance again.  How can that be?  They have
> not had them concentric on the balancer drive shaft. Old wire wheels are not
> compatible with new spin balance machines.  What's the answer?  A lot of
> patience, and double coning the wheels.  By the way, the modern spin balance
> is the least desirable way to balance wire wheels.
> 
> The second best method would be a good old fashion bubble balance.  Your
> tire shop probably threw their bubble balancer away years ago.  If that's
> the case, look around for a tire shop your wife would feel uncomfortable at.
> You know, grimy and dirty, in an old part of town, someone named Mac
> probably has been running it for more years than you are old.  Mac will
> probably have a bubble balancer.  However you'll have to wait for him to dig
> it out from under the stack of used tires he's been trying to sell for the
> last 10 years.
> 
> You might get real lucky and Mac will have a functioning dynamic roller
> balancer that will allow him to balance the tires on the car. This is the
> best way to balance wire wheels. However, like my Mac, he might tell you the
> machine broke 5 years ago and he can't find anyone that can fix it.
> 
> There can be other things that cause steering wheel shake but wheel balance
> is the most likely and the easiest to deal with.  Other issues could be:
> king pins, shocks, steering rack, ball joints, etc.  All of which are
> expensive, time consuming and not likely the problem.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Larry "no more wire wheels" Hoy
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Schure
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:17 PM
>> To: Owner-Mgs
>> Subject: A Bouncy Ride
>> 
>> 
>> Ok Everyone, I got my Tires at 30lbs all around and the ride
>> is much smoother.  But still at around 60 MPH I'm still
>> experiencing a bouncing steering wheel and a slight bouncing
>> rear.  I had the tires balanced.  I have wires with 175s on
>> them.  Any ideas? Thanks Everyone. David
> 

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Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Mountain View, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires





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