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To: David Ambrose <stargazer1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] question about steering rebuild
From: "Osborne, Paul via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:49:31 +0000
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Where is the rubber damper??

paulo


Paul Osborne
Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
University of Rochester
201 Hopeman Build RC
Rochester NY 14627
585-275-5226




On May 18, 2015, at 10:45 PM, David Ambrose via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net<mai=
lto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:


Grab the end of the rack and try to move it up and down; then fore and aft.=
 If you have significant movement, you need to rebuild the rack. I don't kn=
ow about the MGA racks, but the MGB racks have a rubber damper that has pro=
bably hardened into a hockey puck. I would check that too. There should be =
shims under the top cover to set the amount of damping.

Poly bushings improve the handling, but make the ride a little harsher. But=
, more importantly, they are more durable.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

On 5/18/2015 7:04 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:
When I hit the road in my 62 II deluxe, especially on bumpy roads, I get a =
lot of rumbling , clunking and shaking. She goes down the highway smoothly;=
 no veering and only above 70 do I start to get some shimmying. I am planni=
ng to put in a major suspension kit and steering bits in on my 62 II deluxe=
. My rack seals are fine, I will put in new tie-rod ends. I am interested i=
n any input about other parts that should be replaced. I am thinking specif=
ically about any steering ball parts, or shims. Suspension springs front an=
d rear, rebound buffers. Although there is no problem that I am aware of, I=
 am also thinking of putting new bearings in. This is because I don=92t kno=
w how long it=92s been since any of these steering and suspension bits and =
pieces have been replaced and because I am going to be there anyway. Seems =
like shocks shouldn=92t normally need replacing, but is there any reasonabl=
e R&R (I expect draining and replacing with some kind of oil, but should sh=
ims be put in under the internal spring?)? Pushing down on a corner of the =
car tends to bounce more than modern shocks.

Any input welcome and helpful to all:<)))

TIA,

Clayton


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Where is the rubber damper?? &nbsp;
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Paul&nbsp;Osborne<br>
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201 Hopeman Build RC<br>
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<div>On May 18, 2015, at 10:45 PM, David Ambrose via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
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Grab the end of the rack and try to move it up and down; then fore and aft.=
 If you have significant movement, you need to rebuild the rack. I don't kn=
ow about the MGA racks, but the MGB racks have a rubber damper that has pro=
bably hardened into a hockey puck.
 I would check that too. There should be shims under the top cover to set t=
he amount of damping.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br=
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Poly bushings improve the handling, but make the ride a little harsher. But=
, more importantly, they are more durable.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-sp=
ace">&nbsp;</span><br>
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Cheers,<br>
Dave Ambrose<br>
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On 5/18/2015 7:04 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:<br>
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When I hit the road in my 62 II deluxe, especially on bumpy roads, I get a =
lot of rumbling , clunking and shaking. She goes down the highway smoothly;=
 no veering and only above 70 do I start to get some shimmying. I am planni=
ng to put in a major suspension
 kit and steering bits in on my 62 II deluxe. My rack seals are fine, I wil=
l put in new tie-rod ends. I am interested in any input about other parts t=
hat should be replaced. I am thinking specifically about any steering ball =
parts, or shims. Suspension springs
 front and rear, rebound buffers. Although there is no problem that I am aw=
are of, I am also thinking of putting new bearings in. This is because I do=
n=92t know how long it=92s been since any of these steering and suspension =
bits and pieces have been replaced and
 because I am going to be there anyway. Seems like shocks shouldn=92t norma=
lly need replacing, but is there any reasonable R&amp;R (I expect draining =
and replacing with some kind of oil, but should shims be put in under the i=
nternal spring?)? Pushing down on a corner
 of the car tends to bounce more than modern shocks.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Any input welcome and helpful to all:&lt;)))<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>
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TIA,<o:p></o:p></div>
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Clayton<o:p></o:p></div>
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