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To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Bad Fuel Question
From: i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:44:10 -0700
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bad condenser caused my car to buck, cough and run rough on acceleration.
Not sure about how, but Ii will confirm it ran like crap when they failed.
replacing with an old stock Lucas unit, got me home until I replaced it
with the HD one from the Distributor Dr. Do a google search. It's a real
thing.
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:19 AM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> How do bad condensers cause rough running? All they do is prevent the
> points from burning. Oh, you are saying the points are burnt.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>
>
>
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erbs via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> could also be a bad a condenser. Could coincidental, not causational. How
> old is the condenser? Even if newish, there are lots of crappy new Lucas
> parts out there. I had three bad ones with similar results, until replaced
> with  a Distributor Doctor HD condenser.
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs <
> mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I've never encountered a "bad fuel" problem before, so I'm looking
>> for some confirmation (or not).  The local Mom-without-Pop store put
>> in new pumps, and one of the things they're offering now is 92 octane (US)
>> alcohol-free gas.  I had about a quarter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high
>> compression engine) so I went to fill up.  The pump with the alcohol-
>> free gas was out of order!  So I put in three gallons of regular 92
>> octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station started experiencing a lot
>> of misfiring, mostly when accelerating in 3rd and 4th.  I continued
>> driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear up and it
>> never did.  I can't imagine it's anything but the fuel, but I've never
>> encountered "bad fuel" situation like this in 44 years of driving.
>>
>> The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the station seems
>> like pretty good evidence.  Any other possibilities?  Is there any option
>> other than to just burn through this half tank of gas?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Breneman  david_breneman@yahoo.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr">bad condenser caused my car to buck, cough and run rough o=
n acceleration. Not sure about how, but Ii will confirm it ran like crap wh=
en they failed. replacing with an old stock Lucas unit, got me home until I=
 replaced it with the HD one from the Distributor Dr. Do a google search. I=
t&#39;s a real thing.<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div=
>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________=
________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 e=
ngine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=
=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem=
.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,5=
1);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:14px">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andr=
etti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled=
 words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:19 AM Max H=
eim via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">How do bad condensers cause rough ru=
nning? All they do is prevent the points from burning. Oh, you are saying t=
he points are burnt.<div><br><div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:=
0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"=
margin:0px;font-size:13px">--</div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;=
min-height:16px">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px">&#3=
9;66 MGB</div></div></div>
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<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:10 AM, i erb=
s via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">mgs@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755A=
pple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Verdan=
a;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:nor=
mal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:n=
one;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">could also be a bad a condenser. C=
ould coincidental, not causational. How old is the condenser? Even if newis=
h, there are lots of crappy new Lucas parts out there. I had three bad ones=
 with similar results, until replaced with=C2=A0 a Distributor Doctor HD co=
ndenser.<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213=
864845755gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><di=
v><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span=
><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______=
 \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,=
serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span>=
</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img alt=3D"MG"></div>=
<div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car =
is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><d=
iv>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div><br></div><br style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norma=
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nt-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:36 AM David Breneman via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:mgs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=
=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpec15941cyahoo-=
style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13p=
x"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve never encountered a &quot;bad fuel&quot; =
problem before, so I&#39;m looking</div><div dir=3D"ltr">for some confirmat=
ion (or not).=C2=A0 The local Mom-without-Pop store put</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">in new pumps, and one of the things they&#39;re offering now is 92 octan=
e (US)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">alcohol-free gas.=C2=A0 I had about a quar=
ter tank in my MGA (w/MGB high</div><div dir=3D"ltr">compression engine) so=
 I went to fill up.=C2=A0 The pump with the alcohol-</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
free gas was out of order!=C2=A0 So I put in three gallons of regular 92<sp=
an class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755Apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">octane, and about 1/4 mile from the station star=
ted experiencing a lot</div><div dir=3D"ltr">of misfiring, mostly when acce=
lerating in 3rd and 4th.=C2=A0 I continued</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><spa=
n class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd145741=
3st">driving like this for about 20 miles to see if it would clear up and i=
t</span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_29921692=
13864845755gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">never did.=C2=A0 I can=
&#39;t imagine it&#39;s anything but the fuel, but I&#39;ve never</span></s=
pan></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755=
gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">encountered &quot;bad fuel&quot; =
situation like this in 44 years of driving.</span></span></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755gmail-m_90752503627838=
82819ydpd1457413st"><br></span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st"=
>The fact that it started about 1/4 mile after leaving the station seems</s=
pan></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_299216921386=
4845755gmail-m_9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">like pretty good evidence.=
=C2=A0 Any other possibilities?=C2=A0 Is there any option</span></span></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_2992169213864845755gmail-m_=
9075250362783882819ydpd1457413st">other than to just burn through this half=
 tank of gas?</span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><span class=3D"gmai=
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