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Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders
From: "Osborne, Paul" <paul@ece.rochester.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 10:57:40 +0000
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Yes Paul I agree. What is all the fuss about. This is not rocket science. T=
he process has been around for along time and it works.

paul o

paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>> wrote:

I really don't understand the problem, I must be missing something.  One fi=
ts the hose, opens the bleeder, bleeds, closes the bleeder, and removes the=
 tube.  The only fluid that escapes is that which has been pushed out of th=
e system and will be discarded.  What tool you use to open and close the bl=
eeder has no effect on that.

Using whatever tool works best for the job in hand is just common-sense to =
me.  I'll frequently use a socket to crack nuts and bolts in many places on=
 the car for its strength, then switch to a ratchet ring spanner to remove =
them for its speed.

The only repeat bleeding I have to do is at the calipers using EeziBleed fo=
r low-pressure bleeding, then high-pressure bleeding with someone pressing =
down hard on the pedal while I rapidly open and shut each caliper nipple in=
 turn which always blasts a bit more air out.

And no, modern cars are no different if my 'modern' 2004 ZS180 is anything =
to go by.

----- Original Message -----


Yes, I knew what you meant. It is not convenient to constantly change tools=
 when one is dealing with a nasty corrosive liquid, rubber hoses and glass =
jars. Every time you disengage the hose, all the fluid escapes, requiring t=
hat many more pumps the next time.
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Yes Paul I agree. What is all the fuss about. This is not rocket science. T=
he process has been around for along time and it works.&nbsp;
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<div class=3D"">On May 26, 2020, at 3:19 AM, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
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<font size=3D"2" class=3D"">I really don't understand the problem, I must b=
e missing something.&nbsp; One fits the hose, opens the bleeder, bleeds, cl=
oses the bleeder, and removes the tube.&nbsp; The only fluid that escapes i=
s that which has been pushed out of the system
 and will be discarded.&nbsp; What tool you use to open and close the bleed=
er has no effect on that.</font></div>
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<font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Using whatever tool works best for the job in h=
and is just common-sense to me.&nbsp; I'll frequently use a socket to crack=
 nuts and bolts in many places on the car for its strength, then switch to =
a ratchet ring spanner to remove them for
 its speed.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
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<font size=3D"2" class=3D"">The only repeat bleeding I have to do is at the=
 calipers using EeziBleed for low-pressure bleeding, then high-pressure ble=
eding with someone pressing down hard on the pedal while I rapidly open and=
 shut each caliper nipple in turn which
 always blasts a bit more air out.</font></div>
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<font size=3D"2" class=3D"">And no, modern cars are no different if my 'mod=
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Yes, I knew what you meant. It is not convenient to constantly change tools=
 when one is dealing with a nasty corrosive liquid, rubber hoses and glass =
jars. Every time you disengage the hose, all the fluid escapes, requiring t=
hat many more pumps the next time.</blockquote>
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