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Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders
From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 08:54:51 -0700
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All I am saying is, just try it with one of those crappy 7mm bleed =
screws and you will be complaining loudly yourself.


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> On May 26, 2020, at 12:19 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> =
wrote:
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> I really don't understand the problem, I must be missing something.  =
One fits the hose, opens the bleeder, bleeds, closes the bleeder, and =
removes the tube.  The only fluid that escapes is that which has been =
pushed out of the system and will be discarded.  What tool you use to =
open and close the bleeder has no effect on that.
> =20
> Using whatever tool works best for the job in hand is just =
common-sense to me.  I'll frequently use a socket to crack nuts and =
bolts in many places on the car for its strength, then switch to a =
ratchet ring spanner to remove them for its speed.
> =20
> The only repeat bleeding I have to do is at the calipers using =
EeziBleed for low-pressure bleeding, then high-pressure bleeding with =
someone pressing down hard on the pedal while I rapidly open and shut =
each caliper nipple in turn which always blasts a bit more air out.
> =20
> And no, modern cars are no different if my 'modern' 2004 ZS180 is =
anything to go by.
> =20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>=20
>>=20
>> Yes, I knew what you meant. It is not convenient to constantly change =
tools when one is dealing with a nasty corrosive liquid, rubber hoses =
and glass jars. Every time you disengage the hose, all the fluid =
escapes, requiring that many more pumps the next time.
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">All =
I am saying is, just try it with one of those crappy 7mm bleed screws =
and you will be complaining loudly yourself.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">--</div><div class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; class=3D"">mvheim@sonic.net</a></div><div=
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</div>
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 26, 2020, at 12:19 AM, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com"; =
class=3D"">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">I really =
don't understand the problem, I must be missing something.&nbsp; One =
fits the hose, opens the bleeder, bleeds, closes the bleeder, and =
removes the tube.&nbsp; The only fluid that escapes is that which has =
been pushed out of the system and will be discarded.&nbsp; What tool you =
use to open and close the bleeder has no effect on =
that.</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Using whatever tool works best =
for the job in hand is just common-sense to me.&nbsp; I'll frequently =
use a socket to crack nuts and bolts in many places on the car for its =
strength, then switch to a ratchet ring spanner to remove them for its =
speed.</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">The only repeat bleeding I have =
to do is at the calipers using EeziBleed for low-pressure bleeding, then =
high-pressure bleeding with someone pressing down hard on the pedal =
while I rapidly open and shut each caliper nipple in turn which always =
blasts a bit more air out.</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">And no, =
modern cars are no different if my 'modern' 2004 ZS180 is anything to go =
by.</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
text-decoration: none; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: arial;" class=3D"">----- Original Message -----</div><div =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D""></font><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D"">Yes, I knew what you meant. It is not convenient to =
constantly change tools when one is dealing with a nasty corrosive =
liquid, rubber hoses and glass jars. Every time you disengage the hose, =
all the fluid escapes, requiring that many more pumps the next =
time.</blockquote><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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