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Re: [Shop-talk] falling headliner fix?

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] falling headliner fix?
From: steve hochschild <steve-hochschild@att.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 20:19:04 -0500
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What Jack said; Upholstery twist pins are available at any of the 
fabric/sewing stores, and in my case, they worked fine for a couple of 
years.  Definitely the first thing to try.



On 4/19/2016 11:34 AM, jibrooks@live.com wrote:
>
> Back when I had a Saab 9000 with the same issue I put upholstery twist 
> pins (hillman pn 122264) into the cardboard backer material. This will 
> only work if the basket is soft like cardboard.
>
> It is not beautiful,  but it is functional.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:05 AM -0700, "John T. Blair" 
>
> At 07:40 AM 4/19/2016, Philip Ethier wrote:
>
> >My MOL has a Saturn with a falling headliner.  What's the fix for this?
>
> Unfortunately, I don't think there is a fix in a can.  Usually the 
> head liners are a
> piece of cloth with a foam rubber backing which is glued to a 
> fiberglass shell.
>
> Over the years, heat and cool cycles, and wind beating on it (windows 
> rolled down)
> the foam rubber drys out and crumbles.
>
> You can try getting any spray glue and seeing if that won't hold it up 
> for a while,
> but the real fix is to take it to a shop and have them remove the 
> headliner, clean
> the old cloth off the shell, and install new material.  I don't have 
> any idea what
> it costs today.  I had a Voyager van done years ago for about $125 
> dollars.  But
> like I say that was well over 10 yrs ago.
>
> John
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    What Jack said; Upholstery twist pins are available at any of the
    fabric/sewing stores, and in my case, they worked fine for a couple
    of years.  Definitely the first thing to try.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/19/2016 11:34 AM,
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href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com";>jibrooks@live.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="auto">Back when I had a Saab 9000 with the same issue I
        put upholstery twist pins (hillman pn 122264) into the cardboard
        backer material. This will only work if the basket is soft like
        cardboard.
      </p>
      <p dir="auto">It is not beautiful,  but it is functional. </p>
      <p dir="auto">Jack<br>
      </p>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:05 AM -0700,
        "John T. Blair" <span dir="ltr">
          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net";
            target="_blank">jblair1948@cox.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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      <div><font size="3">At 07:40 AM 4/19/2016, Philip Ethier wrote:<br>
          <br>
          &gt;My MOL has a Saturn with a falling headliner.  What's the
          fix for this?<br>
          <br>
          Unfortunately, I don't think there is a fix in a can.  Usually
          the head liners are a
          <br>
          piece of cloth with a foam rubber backing which is glued to a
          fiberglass shell.<br>
          <br>
          Over the years, heat and cool cycles, and wind beating on it
          (windows rolled down)<br>
          the foam rubber drys out and crumbles. <br>
          <br>
          You can try getting any spray glue and seeing if that won't
          hold it up for a while,<br>
          but the real fix is to take it to a shop and have them remove
          the headliner, clean<br>
          the old cloth off the shell, and install new material.  I
          don't have any idea what<br>
          it costs today.  I had a Voyager van done years ago for about
          $125 dollars.  But<br>
          like I say that was well over 10 yrs ago.<br>
          <br>
          John<br>
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