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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Question to ponder- When someone brings their vehicle to your garage, do you do the work or do you let them do it?
From: Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 14:59:31 -0400
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I've considered charging, or putting up a "donations" box, but so far
everyone has been pretty good about buying replacements parts, supplies,
beer, etc. so I haven't felt the need.

Ben....

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:39 PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve done it all the ways listed. I=E2=80=99ve always had broken =
tools replaced by
> the vehicle owner. If they use my parts, they pay me for them if they bre=
ak
> them or not.
>
> You didn=E2=80=99t specify if you were charging for your shop. That can m=
ake a
> difference.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2018, at 9:38 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>
> I just wanted to start a little conversation about a question that bother=
s
> me (albeit very little.)
> When someone brings their vehicle to your garage, do you do the work or d=
o
> you let them do it?
>
> Here is the context, due to my garage, everyone I offer to help brings
> their vehicles to me to fix.  Once there, I do the work for the most part=
.
> I enjoy doing it, so it's no big deal.
>
> But a few people commented that they expected to do most if not all the
> work once there.
>
> I understand that they may enjoy working on the cars as well, but here is
> my thought about it...
>
> One, since it's my garage, I know where every tools, part, etc is
> located.  I know what I have and don't have.  When doing the work, I know
> what equipment I have will work the best for the situation.
> Also, I also know where to put everything back when I'm done.
>
> This is the fastest and most effective way to do the work in my opinion.
>
> I realize that this takes away their ability to learn through first hand
> experience, but I do include them in the work when possible.
>
> So, what is the proper way to handle this?  Is it a "home rule" thing, or
> a should I step aside and let them do all the work?
>
> One more thing, if they are doing the work and break something on their
> car that requires a trip to the auto parts store, I now have to drive the=
m
> there (this I don't like.)  At least if I break it, I don't mind the trip
> as much.
>
> What's your take?
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Tech Viper
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve considered charging, or putting up a &quot;donati=
ons&quot; box, but so far everyone has been pretty good about buying replac=
ements parts, supplies, beer, etc. so I haven&#39;t felt the need.<div><br>=
</div><div>Ben....</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:39 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintex=
as@icloud.com">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve done it all the ways listed=
. I=E2=80=99ve always had broken tools replaced by the vehicle owner. If th=
ey use my parts, they pay me for them if they break them or not.=C2=A0<div>=
<br></div><div>You didn=E2=80=99t specify if you were charging for your sho=
p. That can make a difference.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pa=
t</div><div><br><div id=3D"m_-7752372374190975044AppleMailSignature">Pat Ho=
rne=C2=A0<div>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br=
></div></div><div><br>On Sep 20, 2018, at 9:38 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:eric@m=
egageek.com" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><d=
iv><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I just wanted to start a little con=
versation
about a question that bothers me (albeit very little.)</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">When someone brings their vehicle =
to
your garage, do you do the work or do you let them do it?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is the context, due to my gar=
age,
everyone I offer to help brings their vehicles to me to fix.=C2=A0 Once
there, I do the work for the most part.=C2=A0 I enjoy doing it, so it&#39;s
no big deal.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But a few people commented that th=
ey
expected to do most if not all the work once there.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I understand that they may enjoy w=
orking
on the cars as well, but here is my thought about it...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">One, since it&#39;s my garage, I k=
now where
every tools, part, etc is located.=C2=A0 I know what I have and don&#39;t h=
ave.
=C2=A0When doing the work, I know what equipment I have will work the best
for the situation.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, I also know where to put eve=
rything
back when I&#39;m done.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">This is the fastest and most effec=
tive
way to do the work in my opinion. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I realize that this takes away the=
ir
ability to learn through first hand experience, but I do include them in
the work when possible.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, what is the proper way to hand=
le
this?=C2=A0 Is it a &quot;home rule&quot; thing, or a should I step aside
and let them do all the work?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">One more thing, if they are doing =
the
work and break something on their car that requires a trip to the auto
parts store, I now have to drive them there (this I don&#39;t like.) =C2=A0=
At
least if I break it, I don&#39;t mind the trip as much.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What&#39;s your take?</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
Tech Viper<br>
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