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Yup, 20 volt is mainly marketing but also a Change to a better battery techn=
ology.=20
18 volt is measured under load while 20 volt is measured open circuit so the=
tool doesn=E2=80=99t see any difference between them.=20
DeWalt has an adapter to allow 20 volt batteries to be used in most 18 volt t=
ools.=20
BTW, last time I checked DeWalt didn=E2=80=99t sell 18 volt batteries any m=
ore.=20
Peace,
Pat
Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity
On Jan 10, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFAnother DeWalt fan here. I'm sure the Milwaukees are just fine, but=
I bought into the platform. For regular around the house stuff Ryobi is sur=
prisingly good, but they may not be at Menard's.=20
As for the 12v vs 18/20v stuff (I've read the 20v is really an 18v with extr=
a marketing power), I had a 12v Black & Decker drill a long time ago, and li=
ked it so much I replaced the batteries, and then the motor. Eventually the h=
ousing cracked and I moved to the 20v DeWalt. If I were just buying for gene=
ral household, I'd choose a modern 18v Ryobi over a 12v.=20
jim
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:=
>=20
> Hey all,=20
>=20
> I know this has been discussed ad nauseam but I didn't save any of those e=
mails.....
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> I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are bot=
h burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit in=
the bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to=
at least match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there righ=
t now.=20
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> So, what is the best right now? I am not worried about a little heavier th=
an most as I am not contractor and this won't get used every day. I am just g=
etting tired of dragging cords. I'd like whatever I get to be the start of g=
oing all cordless (skill saw, Sawzall, etc).
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> Thanks all
> tim
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yup, 20 volt is mainly marketing but also a=
Change to a better battery technology. <div><br></div><div>18 volt is m=
easured under load while 20 volt is measured open circuit so the tool doesn=E2=
=80=99t see any difference between them. </div><div><br></div><div>DeWa=
lt has an adapter to allow 20 volt batteries to be used in most 18 volt tool=
s. </div><div><br></div><div>BTW, last time I checked DeWalt didn=
=E2=80=99t sell 18 volt batteries any more. </div><div><br></div><div>P=
eace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne <div>We support H=
abitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 10=
, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:<br><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=
=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">Another DeWalt fan here. I'm sure the Mil=
waukees are just fine, but I bought into the platform. For regular around th=
e house stuff Ryobi is surprisingly good, but they may not be at Menard's.&n=
bsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As for the 12v vs 1=
8/20v stuff (I've read the 20v is really an 18v with extra marketing power),=
I had a 12v Black & Decker drill a long time ago, and liked it so much I=
replaced the batteries, and then the motor. Eventually the housing cracked a=
nd I moved to the 20v DeWalt. If I were just buying for general household, I=
'd choose a modern 18v Ryobi over a 12v. </div><div class=3D""><br clas=
s=3D""></div><div class=3D"">jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 10, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Ti=
m . <<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; class=3D"">tims_dat=
sun_stuff@outlook.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-new=
line"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: n=
ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: n=
one; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D=
"">Hey all, </div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: n=
ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: n=
one; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style:=
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: nor=
mal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:=
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:=
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D=
"">I know this has been discussed ad nauseam but I didn't save any=
of those emails.....</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-sty=
le: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spac=
e: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoratio=
n: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-st=
yle: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:=
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-sp=
ace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decorat=
ion: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" cl=
ass=3D"">I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that a=
re both burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can f=
it in the bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willi=
ng to at least match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there=
right now. </div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: n=
ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: norma=
l; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: n=
ormal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: n=
one; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style:=
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: nor=
mal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:=
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:=
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D=
"">So, what is the best right now? I am not worried about a little heavier t=
han most as I am not contractor and this won't get used every day. I am just=
getting tired of dragging cords. I'd like whatever I get to be the start of=
going all cordless (skill saw, Sawzall, etc).</div><div style=3D"caret-colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:=
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-t=
ransform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-=
width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-ser=
if; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weigh=
t: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text=
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e-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-s=
erif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Thanks all</div><div style=3D"caret-=
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-wei=
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