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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] More compressor questions
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:38:51 -0500
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Good questions. I think it all depends how much you are going to use it & ho=
w reliable it NEEDS to be.=20

As to what hp rating, I suspect with the CFM & pressure being equal that the=
 main difference is how much headroom the motor has. If the motor is running=
 at or near capacity it won=E2=80=99t last as long.=20

If you are using lots of air & your budget allows,  consider a 2 stage compr=
essor.=20

I had a small oil less compressor that I used on job sites it worked fine un=
til one day it just started running longer, then pressure dropped. The pisto=
n seal died. I purchased an oil lubricated unit to replace it.=20

If you are mainly using air tools & not painting, I=E2=80=99d go with oil. M=
ost of my usage is air tools & media blasting. When we needed to paint a veh=
icle we just added an oil separator & filter. Worked fine.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:25 PM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20
Thanks again for all the replies to my original post about my compressor mot=
or
not working.

With all this going on, I have been doing some thinking about having to buy a=
 new =20
compressor if I can't get this motor running.  That said, this compressor ap=
pears=20
to come with a 3hp, 4hp, and 5hp motor.  I have the 5hp.  I know that when i=
t
comes to getting a new compressor, bigger is better, to the extent of your b=
udget. =20

1. What is the advantage of the different hp motors.  I know the big advanta=
ge
for the 5hp is it runs on 220V.  But how does the hp affect the compressor. =
=20
Based on the info in the manual, it appears that all 3 versions have the sam=
e=20
SCFM specs.

My current compressor is an oil lubricated one. =20

2. I see oil-less compressors that supposedly have fantastic specs for air s=
upply
that are so much cheaper than oil lubed versions.  Any thoughts?

3.  Any body have an oil-less compressor?  How do you like it?  I was readin=
g an
article that was talking about how the oil-less versions have come a long wa=
ys. =20
They were saying that the biggest advantage for the oil liubes was for high a=
ir
demand over a long time like in a commercial shop.  But my dad's compressor,=

a 4hp 220V 20 gal unit and my 5hp 220V 30 gal rig were all oil lubed.  We go=
t dad's
compressor back in the 60s and it was still running when he passed in 2015. =
 I=20
bought mine back about '90.  So I lean toward them.  But is that realistic?

John




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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Good questions. I think it all depends how m=
uch you are going to use it &amp; how reliable it NEEDS to be.&nbsp;<div><br=
></div><div>As to what hp rating, I suspect with the CFM &amp; pressure bein=
g equal that the main difference is how much headroom the motor has. If the m=
otor is running at or near capacity it won=E2=80=99t last as long.&nbsp;</di=
v><div><br></div><div>If you are using lots of air &amp; your budget allows,=
 &nbsp;consider a 2 stage compressor.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I had a=
 small oil less compressor that I used on job sites it worked fine until one=
 day it just started running longer, then pressure dropped. The piston seal d=
ied. I purchased an oil lubricated unit to replace it.&nbsp;</div><div><br><=
/div><div>If you are mainly using air tools &amp; not painting, I=E2=80=99d g=
o with oil. Most of my usage is air tools &amp; media blasting. When we need=
ed to paint a vehicle we just added an oil separator &amp; filter. Worked fi=
ne.&nbsp;<br><br>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Hor=
ne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:25 PM, John T. Blair &lt;jblair1948@cox=
.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<font size=3D"3"><br>
Thanks again for all the replies to my original post about my compressor
motor<br>
not working.<br><br>
With all this going on, I have been doing some thinking about having to
buy a new&nbsp; <br>
compressor if I can't get this motor running.&nbsp; That said, this
compressor appears <br>
to come with a 3hp, 4hp, and 5hp motor.&nbsp; I have the 5hp.&nbsp; I
know that when it<br>
comes to getting a new compressor, bigger is better, to the extent of
your budget.&nbsp; <br><br>
1. What is the advantage of the different hp motors.&nbsp; I know the big
advantage<br>
for the 5hp is it runs on 220V.&nbsp; But how does the hp affect the
compressor.&nbsp; <br>
Based on the info in the manual, it appears that all 3 versions have the
same <br>
SCFM specs.<br><br>
My current compressor is an oil lubricated one.&nbsp; <br><br>
2. I see oil-less compressors that supposedly have fantastic specs for
air supply<br>
that are so much cheaper than oil lubed versions.&nbsp; Any
thoughts?<br><br>
3.&nbsp; Any body have an oil-less compressor?&nbsp; How do you like
it?&nbsp; I was reading an<br>
article that was talking about how the oil-less versions have come a long
ways.&nbsp; <br>
They were saying that the biggest advantage for the oil liubes was for
high air<br>
demand over a long time like in a commercial shop.&nbsp; But my dad's
compressor,<br>
a 4hp 220V 20 gal unit and my 5hp 220V 30 gal rig were all oil
lubed.&nbsp; We got dad's<br>
compressor back in the 60s and it was still running when he passed in
2015.&nbsp; I <br>
bought mine back about '90.&nbsp; So I lean toward them.&nbsp; But is
that realistic?<br><br>
John<br><br>
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<div>John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp;
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Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Phone:&nbsp; (757) 495-8229</div>
<br>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48
TR1800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4
Series V (B1106)</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
77 Spitfire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71 Saab Sonett III</div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
65 Rambler Classic</div>
<br>
<div>Morgan:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"http://www.team.net/morgan"; eudora=3D"AUTOURL">
www.team.net/morgan</a></div>
<div>Bricklin:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e pluribus Unum, "from many,
one."</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In God We Trust</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Liberty - the&nbsp; power&nbsp; of&nbsp;
choosing,&nbsp; thinking,&nbsp; and&nbsp; acting&nbsp; for&nbsp; </div>
<div>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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oneself; freedom&nbsp; from&nbsp; control&nbsp; or&nbsp;
restriction&nbsp; </div>
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