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To: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] More compressor questions
From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 11:42:19 -0700
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Hi John,

The oil-less compressors probably are good enough for casual use, but the
ones that I have been around were noisy, probably because they tend to have
aluminum blocks and that they tend to spin at higher RPM than the larger,
heavier cast iron oil-type compressors.

The noise they make also seems more annoying to my ear, anyway. A larger,
slower spinning pump emits noise, of course, but it does not seem as harsh
as the noise from the oil-less compressor that I have heard.

One advantage of the oil-less compressors is that they will not inject oil
into the air supply if you are spraying paint.

FYIW

best,

doug

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:25 AM John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Thanks again for all the replies to my original post about my compressor
> motor
> not working.
>
> With all this going on, I have been doing some thinking about having to
> buy a new
> compressor if I can't get this motor running.  That said, this compressor
> appears
> to come with a 3hp, 4hp, and 5hp motor.  I have the 5hp.  I know that when
> it
> comes to getting a new compressor, bigger is better, to the extent of your
> budget.
>
> 1. What is the advantage of the different hp motors.  I know the big
> advantage
> for the 5hp is it runs on 220V.  But how does the hp affect the
> compressor.
> Based on the info in the manual, it appears that all 3 versions have the
> same
> SCFM specs.
>
> My current compressor is an oil lubricated one.
>
> 2. I see oil-less compressors that supposedly have fantastic specs for air
> supply
> that are so much cheaper than oil lubed versions.  Any thoughts?
>
> 3.  Any body have an oil-less compressor?  How do you like it?  I was
> reading an
> article that was talking about how the oil-less versions have come a long
> ways.
> They were saying that the biggest advantage for the oil liubes was for
> high air
> demand over a long time like in a commercial shop.  But my dad's
> compressor,
> a 4hp 220V 20 gal unit and my 5hp 220V 30 gal rig were all oil lubed.  We
> got dad's
> compressor back in the 60s and it was still running when he passed in
> 2015.  I
> bought mine back about '90.  So I lean toward them.  But is that realistic?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>The oil-less compressors proba=
bly are good enough for casual use, but the ones that I have been around we=
re noisy, probably because they tend to have aluminum blocks and that they =
tend to spin at higher RPM than the larger, heavier cast iron oil-type=C2=
=A0compressors.</div><div><br></div><div>The noise they make also seems mor=
e annoying to my ear, anyway. A larger, slower spinning pump emits noise, o=
f course, but it does not seem as harsh as the noise from the oil-less comp=
ressor that I have heard.</div><div><br></div><div>One advantage of the oil=
-less compressors is that they will not inject oil into the air supply if y=
ou are spraying paint.</div><div><br></div><div>FYIW</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:25 A=
M John T. Blair &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jblair1948@cox.net";>jblair1948@cox.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
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Thanks again for all the replies to my original post about my compressor
motor<br>
not working.<br><br>
With all this going on, I have been doing some thinking about having to
buy a new=C2=A0 <br>
compressor if I can&#39;t get this motor running.=C2=A0 That said, this
compressor appears <br>
to come with a 3hp, 4hp, and 5hp motor.=C2=A0 I have the 5hp.=C2=A0 I
know that when it<br>
comes to getting a new compressor, bigger is better, to the extent of
your budget.=C2=A0 <br><br>
1. What is the advantage of the different hp motors.=C2=A0 I know the big
advantage<br>
for the 5hp is it runs on 220V.=C2=A0 But how does the hp affect the
compressor.=C2=A0 <br>
Based on the info in the manual, it appears that all 3 versions have the
same <br>
SCFM specs.<br><br>
My current compressor is an oil lubricated one.=C2=A0 <br><br>
2. I see oil-less compressors that supposedly have fantastic specs for
air supply<br>
that are so much cheaper than oil lubed versions.=C2=A0 Any
thoughts?<br><br>
3.=C2=A0 Any body have an oil-less compressor?=C2=A0 How do you like
it?=C2=A0 I was reading an<br>
article that was talking about how the oil-less versions have come a long
ways.=C2=A0 <br>
They were saying that the biggest advantage for the oil liubes was for
high air<br>
demand over a long time like in a commercial shop.=C2=A0 But my dad&#39;s
compressor,<br>
a 4hp 220V 20 gal unit and my 5hp 220V 30 gal rig were all oil
lubed.=C2=A0 We got dad&#39;s<br>
compressor back in the 60s and it was still running when he passed in
2015.=C2=A0 I <br>
bought mine back about &#39;90.=C2=A0 So I lean toward them.=C2=A0 But is
that realistic?<br><br>
John<br><br>
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