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Re: [Shop-talk] led tubes and short memory

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] led tubes and short memory
From: Mark Andy <marka@maracing.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:42:38 -0500
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Howdy,

If I were doing this, I would pretty much just throw away the existing
stuff and put up these:

https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-8500LM-Daylight-Output-Linkable/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=sr_1_2_sspa

I have a shop that was built around 7 years ago and stuff like this wasn't
available at this cost, so I went with 4 tube fluorescent fixtures.
They've been "fine", but when I redid our daily driver parking garage last
year I used the Barrina lights.  Super easy, nice bright light, and pretty
cheap.  Absolutely no question that's what I'd do if I were redoing the
shop / what I will do when the time comes when the existing fluorescents
die.

YMMV.

Mark

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:08 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> Since I was already 'LED curious,' I did a bit of research:
>
> - there are some LED tubes that require a ballast* ('Type A')
> - there are some LED tubes that require bypassing of the ballast ('Type B')
> - there are some LED tubes that work with ballast or without/bypassing,
> with some rewiring* ('Type A+B')
>
>
> If you want the least (initial) hassle, and have 'fresh' ballasts--they
> all fail, eventually--you can plug and play the 'A+B' type with a ballast
> then, when the ballast fails you can bypass it, which requires some
> rewiring (apparently, you can leave the dead ballast in place).
>
>
> * Need to check compatibility between tube and ballast.
>
>
> On 1/10/2022 10:48 AM, Ian McFetridge wrote:
>
> I used the Feit replacement LED tubes, it sounds like they are similar.
> Here are the instructions for the Feit, maybe that will help?
>
> https://www.feit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/T4815_850_AB_LED_10_MANUAL_051019.pdf
>
> Best,
> Ian
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:12 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Couple of years ago I bought a box of Utilitech t81636f16-40...4' led
>> tubes...redid all my shop lights and was pleased with them
>>
>> now I want to add some fixtures in another part of shop and my memory has
>> failed... I know I had to rewire fixtures to make them work
>> but can remember what I did and instruction sheet is long gone or lost...
>>
>> Utilititech was a Lowes brand and now discontinued and Utilitech web site
>> is a joke    anyone tell me how to wire these bulbs up either with or
>> without ballast..,....seems I remember they were non shunted bulbs...but
>> now sure
>>
>> thanks
>> john
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<br><br>If I were doing this, I would pretty much ju=
st throw away the existing stuff and put up these:<br><br><a href=3D"https:=
//www.amazon.com/Barrina-8500LM-Daylight-Output-Linkable/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=
=3Dsr_1_2_sspa">https://www.amazon.com/Barrina-8500LM-Daylight-Output-Linka=
ble/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa</a><br><br>I have a shop that was built=
 around 7 years ago and stuff like this wasn&#39;t available at this cost, =
so I went with 4 tube fluorescent=C2=A0fixtures.=C2=A0 They&#39;ve been &qu=
ot;fine&quot;, but when I redid our daily driver parking garage last year I=
 used the Barrina lights.=C2=A0 Super easy, nice bright light, and pretty c=
heap.=C2=A0 Absolutely no question that&#39;s what I&#39;d do if I were red=
oing the shop / what I will do when the=C2=A0time comes when the existing f=
luorescents die.<br><br>YMMV.<br><br>Mark</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 3:08 PM Bo=
b Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    Since I was already &#39;LED curious,&#39; I did a bit of research:<br>
    <br>
    - there are some LED tubes that require a ballast* (&#39;Type A&#39;)<b=
r>
    - there are some LED tubes that require bypassing of the ballast
    (&#39;Type B&#39;)<br>
    - there are some LED tubes that work with ballast or
    without/bypassing, with some rewiring* (&#39;Type A+B&#39;)<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    If you want the least (initial) hassle, and have &#39;fresh&#39;
    ballasts--they all fail, eventually--you can plug and play the &#39;A+B=
&#39;
    type with a ballast then, when the ballast fails you can bypass it,
    which requires some rewiring (apparently, you can leave the dead
    ballast in place). <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    * Need to check compatibility between tube and ballast.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 1/10/2022 10:48 AM, Ian McFetridge
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">I used the Feit replacement LED tubes, it sounds
        like they are similar.=C2=A0 Here are the instructions for the Feit=
,
        maybe that will help?<br>
        <a href=3D"https://www.feit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/T4815_85=
0_AB_LED_10_MANUAL_051019.pdf" target=3D"_blank">https://www.feit.com/wp-co=
ntent/uploads/2019/10/T4815_850_AB_LED_10_MANUAL_051019.pdf</a><br>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,<br>
        </div>
        <div>Ian</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:12
          PM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Couple of years ago I bought a
                box of Utilitech t81636f16-40...4&#39; led tubes...redid al=
l
                my shop lights and was pleased with them</font></div>
            <div>=C2=A0</div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">now I want to add some fixtures
                in another part of shop and my memory has failed... I
                know I had to rewire fixtures to make them work</font></div=
>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">but can remember what I did and
                instruction sheet is long gone or lost...</font></div>
            <div>=C2=A0</div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">Utilititech was a Lowes brand and
                now discontinued and Utilitech web site is a joke=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0
                anyone tell me how to wire these bulbs up either with or</f=
ont></div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">without ballast..,....seems I
                remember they were non shunted bulbs...but now sure</font><=
/div>
            <div>=C2=A0</div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">thanks</font></div>
            <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
          </div>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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