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Re: Left Lane Cruiser!

To: Les Myer <lmyer@qtm.net>
Subject: Re: Left Lane Cruiser!
From: Chris Stevenson <minor@sunset.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:27:14 -0800
Cc: spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
References: <3.0.5.32.19980210194452.00794200@pop.qtm.net>
Reply-to: Chris Stevenson <minor@sunset.net>
Sender: owner-spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
 Brake horsepower is the same as SAE values and is not worh a (BEEP), DIN
(Deutsche Industri Normal) is what the engine pumps out on the flywheel when it
is installed in the car (Thats why the lower value in, lets say, California)
and is the real output you have to your disposal, basically the same as net hp,
but an a/c is not included because it will not be running all the time and will
be a bigger factor than i.e. an alternator, which is a variable factor (between
0.5 and 2 hp.).
  Chris

Les Myer wrote:

> I think you are confusing the difference between brake horsepower (bhp -
> measured at the flywheel) and net horsepower (which is bhp measured at the
> flywheel with all accessories installed and running) and DIN horsepower
> (which no one has been able to define so far).  Net horsepower is measured
> at the flywheel after driving the smog pump, power steering pump, water
> pump, alternator, & air conditioning.  The net measurement went into effect
> in 1973 for American made cars and this is exclusively why the 400
> horsepower specs disappeared.
>
> Also, according to Horler, the 65bhp spec for home market 1500s was not
> "the later and standardised DIN values of measured horsepower" (see p 127,
> last paragraph)......who to believe.......we may never settle this.
>
> Les
>
> Les
>
> At 06:30 PM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Les Myer wrote:
> >> configuration up to 65bhp for the home market.  Given that the 1275 was
> >> 65bhp.
> >
> >  The home market 1500 is 65hp DIN, which is a much stricter
> >measurement and is quite simply more than the "65hp" using
> >the older standards that the 1275 is depicted in.
> >
> >  This is the same reason why those "400 hp muscle cars"
> >disappeared and were replaced with numbers sometimes under
> >half that, even though the actual losses were not so much.
> >
> >--
> >Trevor Boicey
> >Ottawa, Canada
> >tboicey@brit.ca
> >http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
> >
> >




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