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Re: Left Lane Cruiser!

Subject: Re: Left Lane Cruiser!
From: Ulix Goettsch <ulix@u.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:57:04 -0800 (PST)
Cc: spridgets@Autox.Team.Net
In-reply-to: <34E10C7F.F31BAE1A@sunset.net>
Reply-to: Ulix Goettsch <ulix@u.washington.edu>
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Deutsche Industrie Norm (German Industry Standard)
Ulix (deutsch)

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Chris Stevenson wrote:

>  Brake horsepower is the same as SAE values and is not worh a (BEEP), DIN
> (Deutsche Industri Normal) is what the engine pumps out on the flywheel when 
>it
> is installed in the car (Thats why the lower value in, lets say, California)
> and is the real output you have to your disposal, basically the same as net 
>hp,
> but an a/c is not included because it will not be running all the time and 
>will
> be a bigger factor than i.e. an alternator, which is a variable factor 
>(between
> 0.5 and 2 hp.).
>   Chris
> 
> Les Myer wrote:
> 
> > I think you are confusing the difference between brake horsepower (bhp -
> > measured at the flywheel) and net horsepower (which is bhp measured at the
> > flywheel with all accessories installed and running) and DIN horsepower
> > (which no one has been able to define so far).  Net horsepower is measured
> > at the flywheel after driving the smog pump, power steering pump, water
> > pump, alternator, & air conditioning.  The net measurement went into effect
> > in 1973 for American made cars and this is exclusively why the 400
> > horsepower specs disappeared.
> >
> > Also, according to Horler, the 65bhp spec for home market 1500s was not
> > "the later and standardised DIN values of measured horsepower" (see p 127,
> > last paragraph)......who to believe.......we may never settle this.
> >
> > Les
> >
> > Les
> >
> > At 06:30 PM 2/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Les Myer wrote:
> > >> configuration up to 65bhp for the home market.  Given that the 1275 was
> > >> 65bhp.
> > >
> > >  The home market 1500 is 65hp DIN, which is a much stricter
> > >measurement and is quite simply more than the "65hp" using
> > >the older standards that the 1275 is depicted in.
> > >
> > >  This is the same reason why those "400 hp muscle cars"
> > >disappeared and were replaced with numbers sometimes under
> > >half that, even though the actual losses were not so much.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Trevor Boicey
> > >Ottawa, Canada
> > >tboicey@brit.ca
> > >http://www.brit.ca/~tboicey/
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
> 

    Ulix                                                    __/__,__        
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                                                           '67 Sprite


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