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Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting

To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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I'll have you now it is 62 degrees at this time. I am looking at the window=
 thermometer outside my bedroom (heated) window as I type.Mike
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.ne=
t> wrote:
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 Cold garage? =C2=A0In San Bernardino? =C2=A0What - is it all the way down =
to 65 F? =C2=A0 LOL
It's 34 F in my garage right at the moment.

Sent from my keyboard
On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:


You're going to make me go out in the cold garage and remove the valve cove=
r and look to see what kind of spacers I have.Mike
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimpor=
t.com> wrote:
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  Hmmm=C2=A0 some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to torquin=
g, I venture.
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 On 11/28/2015 12:47 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
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  I will check the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles =
on the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.=C2=A0 They=
 are high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is that much wear on=
 them yet.=C2=A0 The very first time I put oil in the engine, the oil would=
 fill the valve cover before it would eventually drain down in the block.=
=C2=A0 When I built this engine I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the va=
lve train and installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.=
=C2=A0 The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were enlarge=
d, but apparently not large enough for oil to easily pass by. Mike MacLean
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      On Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimp=
ort.com> wrote:
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    And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to feel if maybe those bush=
ings are worn, which can be another reason the head gets flooded with oil
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 On 11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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   "Palm to forehead", =C2=A0why didn't I think of that? =C2=A0Thanks Peter=
 for saving me all that work. Besides, I would have to figure out how my ne=
w electronic works. Mike MacLean=20
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   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone =20
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 From: Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>=20
 Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00)=20
 To: "rrengineer.mike" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net=
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 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting=20
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 In those desperate times at a race, you loosen adjusting nuts and slide th=
e rocker to the side, unless you have solid spacers.
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 On 11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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   I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong, but I have to remove the head=
 Stud nuts on the pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the engine to r=
eplace the pushrods. =C2=A0I'm thinking the other stud nuts have to be loos=
ened also to re-torque the head properly. Is there another way to replace t=
he pushrods without loosening all the head nuts in sequence? Mike MacLean=
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   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone =20
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 Date: 11/28/2015 6:30 AM (GMT-08:00)=20
 To: spridgets@autox.team.net=20
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 Why pull the head at all?
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 World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
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 (608)223-9400
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World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
www.nosimport.com
http://stores.ebay.com/worldwideimportautoparts=20
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
www.nosimport.com
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
www.nosimport.com
http://stores.ebay.com/worldwideimportautoparts=20

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ont-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_155282" dir=3D"ltr">I'll have you now it is =
62 degrees at this time. I am looking at the window thermometer outside my =
bedroom (heated) window as I type.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14487359263=
61_155283" dir=3D"ltr">Mike<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_=
155284"><span></span></div> <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div>=
<div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"font-f=
amily: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div sty=
le=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida =
Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" fa=
ce=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk &lt;refisk=
@chartermi.net&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left=
: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-le=
ft: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv4532271697=
"><div><div>Cold garage? &nbsp;In San Bernardino? &nbsp;What - is it all th=
e way down to 65 F? &nbsp; LOL</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>It's=
 34 F in my garage right at the moment.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">Sent from my keyboard</div><div class=3D"yiv4532271697yqt1264883896" id=
=3D"yiv4532271697yqt56281"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:20=
 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div styl=
e=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york=
, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv4532271697yui_3_16_0_1_144873=
5926361_84412">You're going to make me go out in the cold garage and remove=
 the valve cover and look to see what kind of spacers I have.</div><div id=
=3D"yiv4532271697yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84413">Mike<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div id=3D"yiv4532271697yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84365"><span></span=
></div> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv4532271697qtdSeparateBR"><br cl=
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eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, Nove=
mber 28, 2015 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:peter@nosimport.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
peter@nosimport.com">peter@nosimport.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
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rgin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
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271697"><div>
    Hmmm&nbsp; some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to
    torquing, I venture.<br clear=3D"none">
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    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv4532271697yqt7921921946" id=3D"yiv4532271697yqt55144">=
<div class=3D"yiv4532271697moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2015 12:47 PM, Michael=
 MacLean
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new =
roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4532271697yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_3088=
">I will check
          the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles on
          the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.&nbs=
p;
          They are high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is
          that much wear on them yet.&nbsp; The very first time I put oil i=
n
          the engine, the oil would fill the valve cover before it would
          eventually drain down in the block.&nbsp; When I built this engin=
e
          I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve train and
          installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.&nbsp=
;
          The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were
          enlarged, but apparently not large enough for oil to easily
          pass by.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <br clear=3D"none">
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              <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday=
,
                  November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell
                  <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4532271697=
moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:peter@nosimport.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:peter@nosimport.com";>&lt;peter@nosimport.com&gt;</a> wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none">
                </font></div>
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                    <div> And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to
                      feel if maybe those bushings are worn, which can
                      be another reason the head gets flooded with oil<br c=
lear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div class=3D"yiv4532271697moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>"Palm to forehead", &nbsp;why didn't I think of
                        that? &nbsp;Thanks Peter for saving me all that wor=
k.
                        Besides, I would have to figure out how my new
                        electronic works.</div>
                      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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t" class=3D"yiv4532271697moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:peter@nos=
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                      Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00) <br clear=3D"non=
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                      To: "rrengineer.mike" <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
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                      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
                      <br clear=3D"none">
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                      In those desperate times at a race, you loosen
                      adjusting nuts and slide the rocker to the side,
                      unless you have solid spacers.<br clear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div class=3D"yiv4532271697moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clea=
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                      <blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
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                    <div>
                      <div>I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong,
                        but I have to remove the head Stud nuts on the
                        pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the
                        engine to replace the pushrods. &nbsp;I'm thinking
                        the other stud nuts have to be loosened also to
                        re-torque the head properly. Is there another
                        way to replace the pushrods without loosening
                        all the head nuts in sequence?</div>
                      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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                      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
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                      Why pull the head at all?<br clear=3D"none">
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2517 Seiferth Rd
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(608)223-9400
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv4532271697moz-txt-link-abbre=
viated" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.nosimport.com/";>www.nosimport.=
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
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