Brad Parlee wrote (a whole bunch of stuff quoted entirely below):
Hey Brad,
It pains me to say this, but it appears to me that, based on your last
message, you have taken my side in TE/AE controversy. PLEASE DON'T
TRY TO HELP ME! People are known by their allies...
Since in your recent post you agree that the TE/AE communications
policy needs to be changed so that the officers feel a need to respond
to questions from the membership (of which I am one) I conclude that
you don't really feel that the club's performance in this area has
been the greatest in the past few months.
I had assumed you were an officer by the way you were offering to
intervene on my behalf since the only alternative would have been to
consider you just another big talker. I appologize for calling you an
officer.
I also feel badly that you are frustrated by the TE/AE imbroglio (grab
that dictionary again) but wish to point out that I am not the source
of your frustration. On the contrary, YOU are the source of MY
frustration since I believe that if everyone had spoken up a couple of
months ago the club would not now be in the pickle it is in. If you
are familiar with the maxim "Don't shoot the messenger," you must
realize that your anger at me is misdirected.
If it is your interpretation that I sling mud merely because I decline
to participate in a whitewash, so be it. (I kinda like that image of
nice gooey mud on a pure, blank, white wall. A stonewall, of course.)
But enough frivolity!
Are you even aware that, meantime, a few positive things are going on
in the club? No? Whynot? (I know, Ramon, I know.) Anyway, some
positive things are happening and should be posted to the list soon.
Cheers!
--Colin Cobb, Still a Long Ways From the Coast
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Parlee, Brad (ED&C,SLS) wrote:
>
> Colin, you seem to have forgotten what you wrote:
> > Yeah, but... What is Tigers East/ Alpine East? who take your dues money
> > and you
> never hear from them again? Unless they want more money, of
> course.
>
> > Is it a new club or just that same old bunch of guys
> * This is not "innocuous" it is condemning to all TE/AE club
> members. I looked up "bunch of guys" in the dictionary and it didn't say
> officers
> * I'm not a officer in this organization. "very well hidden
> and oh so silent" or otherwise.
> * I believe that there is a difference between screwing people
> and officers, of a fun club, lacking time or leadership skills - but I am
> frustrated by it as you are.
> * "Shades of Craig Killborn" - Classic show I watch often.
>
> > > Did you ask for your money back? < "Seems counter-productive to me."
> Probably right.
>
> > > Have you ever tried to run a club and keep a news letter current? <
> > "Clubs are run by groups" - ?but you only meant to condemn the officers?
> >
> "I have certainly answered each and every question that
> was posed to me by a member" - a practice we need at TE/AE
>
> > > Was everyone happy with you, the club, and the newsletter? <
> "No" - should everyone who is unhappy post an E-mail to the list
> condemning the whole organization.
>
> > So here are FIVE questions for you, Brad:
> > 1. Why has the TE/AE leadership abdicated their responsibility to run
> > the club for the benefit of the membership? - Time or lack of leadership
> > skills - Don't really know.
> >
> > 2. When (what date) will the newsletter again be published and mailed
> > (none of this "Well, it's at the printers" bull allowed)? Hmmm- at the
> > printers, oops.
> >
> > 3. Why has the club leadership refused to address these issues publicly?
> - They know they screwed up and are embarrassed?
>
> > 4. When did you give up and join the "Oooohhhh! Lets don't rock the boat"
> > group? - Always, on club stuff. I do not publicly lambaste club people.
> > It drives away members and ensures no one will want the lead
> > roles.
> >
> > 5. If you didn't like my previous post on the subject of TE/AE
> > inactivity, why on earth did you challenge me to answer your questions
> > publicly?
> - See #4, I did not want to leave the list with the impression
> that TE/AE was a money grabbing bunch guys who don't care what is said about
> them. To your incorrect point about me "And it is you 'hear no evil, see no
> evil, say no evil' - .....I heard evil and responded.
>
> Colin, what you did was sling mud, which is an over rated way to
> raise awareness, achieve very little, and drain the fun out of stuff. -Brad
>
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