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Re: [Tigers] Tiger MK II sniping thoughts

To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com, Scott Hutchinson <shutchin@netjets.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger MK II sniping thoughts
From: <awtiger@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 9:52:55 -0500
Hi, Owain, et al:

The bottom line here is that, whether someone snipes you or not, if you get 
beat on a piece that's up for auction, then it was worth more to someone else 
than it was to you.  I'm a big slot car fan (HO scale Aurora T-Jets) and I have 
bought many of them on Ebay.  But, I've lost just as many as I've bought to 
people who beat me in the closing seconds of an auction.  Though it sometimes 
is a bitter pill to swallow, in the end I have to concede that the person who 
bought the car was willing to pay more than I was and that's just the way the 
mop flops.  

I agree that it's almost impossible to beat someone using a sniping service.  
But, that person still has to put in a maximum amount that they will pay.  If 
your max is higher than their max, then you're going to win whether the other 
guy is using a sniping service or not.  The way I look at it, the sniping 
service is for the people who don't have the time, or don't want to take the 
time, to sit on the computer and watch an auction come to an end themselves.

My .02 worth,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
B9006857LRX


---- Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote: 
> i suppose this is related enough to tigers for me to get away with a
> response without offending people.  although i'm sure my techniques will
> offen someone!
> 
> it depends how many people are interested and how they bid themselves.   the
> problem with ebay's bid system is that other people keep bidding until they
> are the winning bidder so easily push it up to your high amount.  not
> everyone bids like you do.  this drives the prices nice and high for ebay.
> by sniping, either manually or using a service, the other bidders relax at a
> stable equilibrium and then you come from nowhere and they don't have time
> to respond.
> 
> i find people never snipe too late on cars so IF there is a lot of people
> interested its best not to bid until the last 20 seconds or so. and then put
> another bid for the max you want to pay about 5 seconds before the end just
> in case.
> 
> i've won a few cars this way.  one in particular had about 25 bids from 12
> people.  i bid about 20% higher in the last 10 seconds and won it by 10
> pounds!  this shows its better to bid an amount just over a round number
> because you will win it if other people have put in the same bid.  for
> example, if you want to pay $20,000, bid $20,010.   if the current high
> bidder also bid 20,000 you will still win it without having to pay much
> more.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Scott Hutchinson <shutchin@netjets.com>wrote:
> 
> > I guess I don't understand the difference between the sniping software and
> > what ebay will already do for you.
> >
> > If I submit a maximum bid of 10,000 more than the asking price using ebay
> > and someone else uses sniping software to submit a bid 5,000 above the
> > asking price I will beat them by 100 bucks every time.
> >
> > I don't understand what the advantage is. Submit the absolute most you
> > would pay for it sometime on the day of the end of the auction and forget
> > about it.
> >
> >
> >
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