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Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?

To: "MWood24020@aol.com" <MWood24020@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 22:51:59 -0400
Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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In all fairness the design of both the bike and the engine do not lend
themselves well to speed.

I think it's 6/8 cylinder Acuras I don't like.  They have some kind of
'designed' sound to them.  Not sure how to tell though - all asian cars
look the same to me.   Certainly 4 bangers _can_ sound great.  My 280hp
supercharged mini sound like music and it very light in the muffling
department.  Have a 4 cylinder turbo lotus twin cam that sings too.

Agree 6s, 8s and especially 10s sound the best though....

On Sunday, April 7, 2013, wrote:

> **
> Harley guys/gals love that unmuffled "potato potato"....me? notsomuch. To
> make it worse, on most all Harleys the throttle is more of a volume control
> than a discernible source of increased forward speed. If you're going to
> make that much noise, at least be fast.
>
> Any Honda/Acura or Miata four cylinder unmuffled is ear pain.
>
> Mazda rotaries require mufflers to sound less than annoying. Interesting
> engines, though.
>
> Inline sixes, V8's and V12's all tend to sound right, no matter how
> muffled or unmuffled they may be ;-)
>
>  In a message dated 4/7/2013 7:34:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> owain.lloyd@gmail.com writes:
>
> l up there.  I'm sure I'm offending people now so I'm going to shut up and
> apologise!
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2013, Owain Lloyd wrote:
>
> Aucra exhausts.... (The ones that sound like farts).   Not many engines
> sounds bad to me but Acuras and Harleys are wel
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2013, Owain Lloyd wrote:
>
> Oh god I know!  They sound even worse than pointless 'emergency' sirens.
>  Definitely one of my top 'angry hates' :) what do people see (or should I
> say hear) in that awful racket?
>
> I think all loud noises should be judged by the benchmark of 'would you
> rather your toddler kept sleeping or should they be woken up to experience
> said sound?'  If its not worth being interrupted from an interesting
> conversation from (and a small block ford usually is), I don't want to hear
> it!
>
> - angry Owain in noisy manhattan.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2013, wrote:
>
> Good noise a v8...  bad noise another asshole on a harly with open
> pipes.....my 650 single dr sounds way better than a harly and a gold star
> is
> even better
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: MWood24020 <MWood24020@aol.com>
> To: tsmit <tsmit@shaw.ca>; CoolVT <CoolVT@aol.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 4:31 pm
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?
>
>
> Of course, we also need to differentiate "good noise" from "bad noise"...
> ;-)
>
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2013 1:25:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> tsmit@shaw.ca writes:
>
> True enough, but the LAT73/LAT74 headers and  exhaust, that these mufflers
> were part of, were not really intended for stock  engines.
>
> My Tiger came to me with a five-bolt 289 with ported and  polished heads, a
> Holley 600 and F4B manifold, and a pretty lopey cam. 'Quiet'  was not
> really in its repertoire, although sticking with a 2 inch exhaust  system
> does
> help keep the overall noise level down compared with 2 1/4 or 2  1/2 inch
> pipe, at the expense of some performance at the high end.
>
> Theo
>
> On 4/7/2013 1:58 PM, _CoolVT@aol.com_ (mailto:CoolVT@aol.com)   wrote:
>
>
> I can tell you that in using cheap old glass paks with a stock engine  and
> the same mufflers with a hopped up 302....they are much, much louder  with
> the 302.  I shouldn't think a stock engine would be that  difficult to
> muffle.
> Mark L
>
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2013 3:37:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _tsmit@shaw.ca_ (mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca)  writes:
>
> Mike,
> Here's a picture of what I think are the Mitchell  mufflers - these are
> what was on my Tiger when I got it.
>
> For  the rest of you that won't get the picture:
>
> The body is 24" long,  3x5" oval, 2" in and out. Contrary to what I
> remembered, the hangers  attach 5" rearward from the front of the muffler
> body - there is only  about 20 inches between where the hangers attach on
> the chassis and  the rear axle tube.
>
> I do recall the front of these mufflers pretty  much touching the
> rearward part of the underbody X frame, just behind  the little exhaust
> pipe notch in the X. The sound of these mufflers  was pretty aggressive,
> but it went well with the rest of the system  and engine.
>
> I would also be concerned with the amount of sound  suppression that's
> possible in a small diameter muffler such as the  chambered ones in the
> link below. It may be that with proper choice of  all the internal
> volumes, they get noise cancellation at most of the  frequencies of
> interest, but it seems to me that the overall result  would still be
> pretty dependent on the rest of the package, i.e.  engine disp
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