Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century

[Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>]

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Hello listers,

I'm one of those folks who appreciates originality.

I wanted my Tiger's 260 to meet the originality test while meeting my 
power demands.

Alas, I didn't have the savvy to make that happen.

For cruising, a stock 260 isn't a bad choice but for performance...cubes 
mater.

So my stock engine went onto a stand and was replaced with a 5 bolt 289 
amended with a
302 rotating assembly... a 5 bolt 302 so to speak, making an acceptable 
263 RWHP and comparable torque.

Visually, few people question the difference although the aluminum heads 
do spark questions.

I remain interested in the 260 engine - especially the 245 horsepower 
version advertised in period Tiger literature.

Allan Ballard
Atlanta, Georgia

On 6/19/15 9:46 PM, Scott Hutchinson via Tigers wrote:
> In many ways it's the most fun part of it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 19, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com 
>
>> Scott,
>> That's funny and all to true with car projects. My car started as a 
>> restore to stock project with a few reliability/safety upgrades. Next 
>> thing you know, it's a full on resto-mod from Dale A with a one of a 
>> kind suspension and other over the top upgrades. None of it makes 
>> sense after the fact, but when it's happening, each step seems like a 
>> small change of plan.
>>
>> Stephen Waybright
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Scott Hutchinson via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net 
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2015 1:18 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century
>>
>> In my case it was mission creep.
>>
>> Needed a throw out bearing.  Pulled engine.
>>
>> Thought maybe a new clutch.
>>
>> Then,  valve guides would be a good idea since there is no more lead. 
>> Screw in studs are a great way to strengthen the top end.
>>
>> At work a good friend wiped a cam on a 69 Camaro, so I thought a 
>> roller would be good.
>>
>>
>> Gee that f4b on eBay looks nice.....
>>
>> I'm sure my story is unique....
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers 
>> >
>> > I've notice over the years a desire for many to build (up) a 260 
>> engine in the quest for more power. While I can grasp the desire to 
>> keep an original car - original, it seems the 260 no longer remains 
>> original with the modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing more 
>> than curiosity (no condemnation) why the pursuit?  Is it the 
>> mentioned desire for originality (at least to the block/heads that 
>> came in the car)? Is it simply the quest for the most power out of a 
>> 260 (only)? Or???
>> >
>> > The reason I ask is that my overly practical, frugal nature sees a 
>> well chosen, $150 junk yard roller cam 302 as producing a similar 
>> power result for significantly less cost.  Now, I do have a 63 
>> Rambler with an abysmal 6 cylinder motor (cast-in intake trough). 
>> And, yes, I've wonder just what can be gotten out of that with 
>> modifications. But actually doing it goes against my practical/frugal 
>> nature.
>> >
>> > Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302 build if power is 
>> the desired result. Especially with the parts scarcity and additional 
>> costs.
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    Hello listers,<br>
    <br>
    I'm one of those folks who appreciates originality. <br>
    <br>
    I wanted my Tiger's 260 to meet the originality test while meeting
    my power demands.<br>
    <br>
    Alas, I didn't have the savvy to make that happen.<br>
    <br>
    For cruising, a stock 260 isn't a bad choice but for
    performance...cubes mater.<br>
    <br>
    So my stock engine went onto a stand and was replaced with a 5 bolt
    289 amended with a<br>
    302 rotating assembly... a 5 bolt 302 so to speak, making an
    acceptable 263 RWHP and comparable torque.<br>
    <br>
    Visually, few people question the difference although the aluminum
    heads do spark questions.<br>
    <br>
    I remain interested in the 260 engine - especially the 245
    horsepower version advertised in period Tiger literature.<br>
    <br>
    Allan Ballard<br>
    Atlanta, Georgia <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/15 9:46 PM, Scott Hutchinson
      via Tigers wrote:<br>
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      <div>In many ways it's the most fun part of it. <br>
        <br>
        Sent from my iPhone</div>
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        On Jun 19, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Stephen Waybright &lt;<a
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            <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434737976221_8507"><span>Scott,</span></div>
            <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434737976221_8507"><span
                id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434737976221_9011">That's funny and
                all to true with car projects. My car started as a
                restore to stock project with a few reliability/safety
                upgrades. Next thing you know, it's a full on resto-mod
                from Dale A with a one of a kind suspension and other
                over the top upgrades. None of it makes sense after the
                fact, but when it's happening, each step seems like a
                small change of plan.</span></div>
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                Stephen Waybright<br>
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                    Scott Hutchinson via Tigers &lt;<a
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                    Re: [Tigers] 260 for the 21 century<br>
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                  In my case it was mission creep. <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Needed a throw out bearing.  Pulled engine.<br
                    clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Thought maybe a new clutch.  <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Then,  valve guides would be a good idea since there
                  is no more lead. Screw in studs are a great way to
                  strengthen the top end.
                  <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  At work a good friend wiped a cam on a 69 Camaro, so I
                  thought a roller would be good. 
                  <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Gee that f4b on eBay looks nice.....<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  I'm sure my story is unique....<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Sent from my iPhone<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  &gt; On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" shape="rect"
                    ymailto="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
                    href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";
                    
id="yui_3_16_0_1_1434737976221_9144">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br clear="none">
                  &gt; <br clear="none">
                  &gt; I've notice over the years a desire for many to
                  build (up) a 260 engine in the quest for more power.
                  While I can grasp the desire to keep an original car -
                  original, it seems the 260 no longer remains original
                  with the modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing
                  more than curiosity (no condemnation) why the
                  pursuit?  Is it the mentioned desire for originality
                  (at least to the block/heads that came in the car)? Is
                  it simply the quest for the most power out of a 260
                  (only)? Or???<br clear="none">
                  &gt; <br clear="none">
                  &gt; The reason I ask is that my overly practical,
                  frugal nature sees a well chosen, $150 junk yard
                  roller cam 302 as producing a similar power result for
                  significantly less cost.  Now, I do have a 63 Rambler
                  with an abysmal 6 cylinder motor (cast-in intake
                  trough). And, yes, I've wonder just what can be gotten
                  out of that with modifications. But actually doing it
                  goes against my practical/frugal nature.<br
                    clear="none">
                  &gt; <br clear="none">
                  &gt; Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302
                  build if power is the desired result. Especially with
                  the parts scarcity and additional costs.
                  <br clear="none">
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