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I always laugh at the guys with more modern cars, stock with massive power
already (relative to our cars), who "chip" their cars. I mean, what's the
point? They don't have "enough" power already to do serious damage to
themselves or others? They don't have "enough" power to have fun? Blast
freeway on ramps? If they were truly RACING and needing extra power down
the stretch or out of the corners because the other cars have that fraction
of a second on them, OK, maybe it makes sense. BUT, if they were really
RACING, head to head racing, not just track days, that means there are
classes. And rest assured, a chipped car is going to be in the full
modified class - which means a chip alone ain't going to make you
competitive - you'd need full racing suspension, stripped dead weight,
etc., etc.
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Some us build engines for competition where the rules prevent you dumping
> any old cheap horsepower in the car and necessitate much more effort and
> expense to get power.
>
> That said, I must admit that my tiger (road car) has a 482hp 347. ;)
>
> On Friday, June 19, 2015, Duke Samouce via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Thats why the 260 that came in my Tiger is sitting on an engine stand
>> being restored as a OEM correct display engine. Was making close to 190 HP
>> when pulled. As you all know, a built 347 now sits in the Tiger making
>> ~450HP and many more smiles. A 260 will never produce much HP no matter
>> what you do to it. Forced induction aside.
>>
>> Duke
>>
>>
>> ---- Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>> > I've notice over the years a desire for many to build (up) a 260 engine
>> in
>> > the quest for more power. While I can grasp the desire to keep an
>> original
>> > car - original, it seems the 260 no longer remains original with the
>> > modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing more than curiosity (no
>> > condemnation) why the pursuit? Is it the mentioned desire for
>> originality
>> > (at least to the block/heads that came in the car)? Is it simply the
>> quest
>> > for the most power out of a 260 (only)? Or???
>> >
>> > The reason I ask is that my overly practical, frugal nature sees a well
>> > chosen, $150 junk yard roller cam 302 as producing a similar power
>> result
>> > for significantly less cost. Now, I do have a 63 Rambler with an
>> abysmal 6
>> > cylinder motor (cast-in intake trough). And, yes, I've wonder just what
>> can
>> > be gotten out of that with modifications. But actually doing it goes
>> against
>> > my practical/frugal nature.
>> >
>> > Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302 build if power is the
>> > desired result. Especially with the parts scarcity and additional costs.
>> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I always laugh at the guys with more modern cars, stock wi=
th massive power already (relative to our cars), who "chip" their=
cars.=C2=A0 I mean, what's the point?=C2=A0 They don't have "=
enough" power already to do serious damage to themselves or others?=C2=
=A0 They don't have "enough" power to have fun?=C2=A0 Blast f=
reeway on ramps?=C2=A0 If they were truly RACING and needing extra power do=
wn the stretch or out of the corners because the other cars have that fract=
ion of a second on them, OK, maybe it makes sense.=C2=A0 BUT, if they were =
really RACING, head to head racing, not just track days, that means there a=
re classes.=C2=A0 And rest assured, a chipped car is going to be in the ful=
l modified class - which means a chip alone ain't going to make you com=
petitive - you'd need full racing suspension, stripped dead weight, etc=
., etc.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr=
"><<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@aut=
ox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Some us=
build engines for competition where the=C2=A0rules prevent you dumping any=
old cheap horsepower in the car and necessitate much more effort and expen=
se to get power.<div><br></div><div>That said, I=C2=A0must admit that my ti=
ger (road car) has a=C2=A0482hp 347. ;)<span></span><br><br>On Friday, June=
19, 2015, Duke Samouce via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">Thats why the 260 that came in my Tiger is sitting on an=
engine stand being restored as a OEM correct display engine.=C2=A0 Was mak=
ing close to 190 HP when pulled.=C2=A0 As you all know, a built 347 now sit=
s in the Tiger making ~450HP and many more smiles.=C2=A0 A 260 will never p=
roduce much HP no matter what you do to it.=C2=A0 Forced induction aside.<b=
r>
<br>
Duke<br>
<br>
<br>
---- Tom Witt via Tigers <<a>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> I've notice over the years a desire for many to build (up) a 260 e=
ngine in<br>
> the quest for more power. While I can grasp the desire to keep an orig=
inal<br>
> car - original, it seems the 260 no longer remains original with the<b=
r>
> modifications applied. So, I ask with nothing more than curiosity (no<=
br>
> condemnation) why the pursuit?=C2=A0 Is it the mentioned desire for or=
iginality<br>
> (at least to the block/heads that came in the car)? Is it simply the q=
uest<br>
> for the most power out of a 260 (only)? Or???<br>
><br>
> The reason I ask is that my overly practical, frugal nature sees a wel=
l<br>
> chosen, $150 junk yard roller cam 302 as producing a similar power res=
ult<br>
> for significantly less cost.=C2=A0 Now, I do have a 63 Rambler with an=
abysmal 6<br>
> cylinder motor (cast-in intake trough). And, yes, I've wonder just=
what can<br>
> be gotten out of that with modifications. But actually doing it goes a=
gainst<br>
> my practical/frugal nature.<br>
><br>
> Anyway, just curious as to why the 260 over a 302 build if power is th=
e<br>
> desired result. Especially with the parts scarcity and additional cost=
s.<br>
><br>
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