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Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid

To: Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:19:46 -0800
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That is true for the Ignitor 2 module,
I have a Pertronix 1.  OP has?
Gary W.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> If you are NOT running the Pertronix coil then you need to continue to use=
 resistor associated with the coil you have. They are considered a match pai=
r.  What one needs to be careful about is what side of the resistor the conn=
ection is made. As illustrated below the red wire from the Ignitor goes BEFO=
RE the resistor and gets the full 12 volts.
> =20
> I realize some have been able to go to the low side of the resistor and st=
ill get the system to work.  I recall the rated working voltage of the Pertr=
onix is 8 or 9 volts up to 12 volts and I presume they are able to =E2=80=98=
get by=E2=80=99 wired that way.  But from what I have seen on other sites th=
at is not always the case.  I believe that IF you are using the Pertronix co=
il it is  true 12 volt coil with no external resistor. In that case the + si=
de of the coil would not be an issue for the red wire connection point as it=
 is getting the full 12 volts. Hence why some Pertronix instructions say to c=
onnect to the coil + terminal.
> =20
> FWIW, I have the Ignitor I on a SBC using the original coil. The ignition s=
witch (run position) feeds the original harness, through the resistor, to th=
e coil.  I have the red Pertronix wire lengthened and connected (also) to th=
e =E2=80=98run=E2=80=99 side of the ignition switch as a dedicated connectio=
n.  I have been running it this way for 7+ years and have an =E2=80=9Cold sc=
hool=E2=80=9D Sun tach that does not exhibit issues.
> =20
> <image[1].png>
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary via Tigers
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:56 PM
> To: Joe Brown
> Cc: Tiger Group
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
> =20
> Pertronix may have changed their instructions but..
> I bought one of the earliest Pertronix "points replacement" in about 1992.=

> Instructions then said the red wire goes to the coil - (low side of
> ballast).
> =20
> I just looked at my car, it IS wired that way as it has been without any
> problem since about 1992.
> Stock (and Theo's replacement electronics) tach have always worked
> perfectly and reliably.
> =20
> So much better than points!   I bet most new kids now a days don't have
> a clue what those are!!
> Gary W.
> =20
> =20
> On 11/21/2019 2:27 PM, Joe Brown wrote:
> > 3. I also discovered that I had the Pertronix wired up wrong.  The red
> > wire has to go to 12V and I had it on the battery side of the coil
> > (which is only 7 or 8 volts when the engine is running).
> >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">That is true for the Ignitor 2 module,<div>=
I have a Pertronix 1. &nbsp;OP has?</div><div>Gary W.</div><div><br><br><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.tea=
m.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div>If you are NOT running the Pertronix coil then you need to continue to u=
se=20
resistor associated with the coil you have. They are considered a match=20
pair.&nbsp; What one needs to be careful about is what side of the resistor t=
he=20
connection is made. As illustrated below the red wire from the Ignitor goes=20=

BEFORE the resistor and gets the full 12 volts. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><u>I realize some have been able to go to the low side of the resistor a=
nd=20
still get the system to work.</u>&nbsp; I recall the rated working voltage o=
f=20
the Pertronix is 8 or 9 volts up to 12 volts and I presume they are able to =E2=
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by=E2=80=99 wired that way.&nbsp; But from what I have seen on other sites t=
hat is not=20
always the case.&nbsp; I believe that IF you are using the Pertronix coil it=
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is&nbsp; true 12 volt coil with no external resistor. In that case the + sid=
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the coil would not be an issue for the red wire connection point as it is=20=

getting the full 12 volts. Hence why some Pertronix instructions say to conn=
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to the coil + terminal.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>FWIW, I have the Ignitor I on a SBC using the original coil. The igniti=
on=20
switch (run position) feeds the original harness, through the resistor, to t=
he=20
coil.&nbsp; I have the red Pertronix wire lengthened and connected (also) to=
 the=20
=E2=80=98run=E2=80=99 side of the ignition switch as a dedicated connection.=
&nbsp; I have been=20
running it this way for 7+ years and have an =E2=80=9Cold school=E2=80=9D Su=
n tach that does not=20
exhibit issues.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><div>&lt;image[1].png&gt;</div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>-----Original Message----- </div>
<div>From: Gary via Tigers </div>
<div>Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:56 PM </div>
<div>To: Joe Brown </div>
<div>Cc: Tiger Group </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Pertronix may have changed their instructions but..</div>
<div>I bought one of the earliest Pertronix "points replacement" in about=20=

1992.</div>
<div>Instructions then said the red wire goes to the coil - (low side of </d=
iv>
<div>ballast).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I just looked at my car, it IS wired that way as it has been without an=
y=20
</div>
<div>problem since about 1992.</div>
<div>Stock (and Theo's replacement electronics) tach have always worked </di=
v>
<div>perfectly and reliably.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So much better than points!&nbsp;&nbsp; I bet most new kids now a days=20=

don't have </div>
<div>a clue what those are!!</div>
<div>Gary W.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>On 11/21/2019 2:27 PM, Joe Brown wrote:</div>
<div>&gt; 3. I also discovered that I had the Pertronix wired up wrong.&nbsp=
;=20
The red </div>
<div>&gt; wire has to go to 12V and I had it on the battery side of the coil=
=20
</div>
<div>&gt; (which is only 7 or 8 volts when the engine is running).</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
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