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Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid

To: Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 07:45:05 -0800
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Uh, I think some of that is wrong info.. very confusing to me anyway.

Leave the loop in the stock white wire(or straighten it out) but do NOT 
hook it back to the new tach.
That wire goes directly from the ignition switch to the top of the 
ballast resistor, needs NO connection
to your new tach.

Your new white wire with spade needs an extension wire going to the low 
(negative) side of the
coil where the wire goes to the points (Pertronix).

The +12 green wire needs to plug to the original spade on the back of 
the tach.
HTH,
Gary W.


On 11/21/2019 7:09 AM, Donald Antilla wrote:
>
> Gary and Friends:
>
> I just had a good discussion with Peter Bayer who owns Nisonger 
> Corporation and who modifies the tachs.
>
> Peter explained the entire circuitry to me and I will only summarize 
> in words, then please view the attached file from Nisonger.
>
> The summary is:
>
>   * Keep the loop on the back of the tach intact. Do NOT remove nor
>     disconnect. This SHOULD therefore provide 12 volt power to the
>     ballast resistor
>   * Route a wire from the female spade terminal at back of the updated
>     tach TO the negative side of the ignition coil which has been
>     equipped with the Pertronix system.
>
> Iâ??ve attached the instructions from Nisonger for you to follow.
>
> Peter Bayer is a smart and helpful person and is quite willing to 
> receive a call from Gary and walk Gary through the instructions.
>
> I think once Gary talks with Peter while reading the attached 
> instructions that all will be good.
>
> Peter Bayerâ??s number is (914) 381-3600
>
> Please let me know how it goes.
>
> /Don Antilla /
>
> /Southbury, CT/
>
> /203-264-8301 Home/
>
> /203-592-8427 Cell/
>
> *From: *Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Theo Smit 
> via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Reply-To: *Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:49 PM
> *To: *Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
> *Cc: *tigers <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
>
> remember that TigersUnited.com is not dead, and among other resources 
> it has a complete scan of the Tiger Workshop Manual, including good 
> re-digitized drawings of the wiring diagram.
>
> http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/wsm/tt-images/MKIBIGwiring.jpg
>
> So, with respect to that drawing:
>
> - Your tach should be powered through the spade connector on the back 
> of the tach. That should be connected to a green wire that is 
> energized only when the ignition is on or in the start position.
>
> - Your tach should be grounded through the black daisy-chain wires 
> that need to be connected to the dash frame somewhere (not just gauge 
> to gauge to gauge).
>
> - The OEM wiring has the coil power run through a white wire, looped 
> through the transformer U-shaped metal piece and plastic frame that is 
> mounted on the back of the tach. It kind of sounds like the Nissonger 
> rebuild gave you an alternate means of sensing the ignition with their 
> white "signal in" line. You should have got a wiring diagram with the 
> tach, if they changed the way it can be wired up.
>
> - That OEM white wire needs to connect to one end of the ballast 
> resistor as shown in the wiring diagram (and the other end plugs into 
> the ignition switch, not the tach). It supplies power to the coil 
> through the ballast resistor when the car is running.
>
> - The white/blue wire runs from the solenoid to the ballast resistor 
> to the coil positive.
>
> It sounds like you need to make sure that the white wire you plugged 
> into the tach, is connected to the ballast resistor at the other end. 
> If so, unplug the tach end, loop it through the transformer block, and 
> plug it into the #2 terminal on the ignition switch.
>
> If the tach works properly, then you're good. If it does not, then try 
> looping the white wire through the transformer block in the opposite 
> direction. If that still fails (but the engine runs properly), then 
> abandon the transformer and use Nissonger's signal wire. As Gary says, 
> that wire should be connected using a new extension wire to the coil 
> negative terminal ( where the points connect ).
>
> Good luck,
>
> Theo
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From: *"tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *To: *"Joe Brown" <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"tigers" <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:22:28 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
>
> The Signal wire should probably wire to
>
> the points or low side of the coil.
>
> The white wire should not end at the tach
>
> but would do a one loop through the coil
>
> pickup on the back of the stock tach and
>
> then run to the ballast.
>
> You do need 12v to the back of the tach
>
> spade terminal and a ground.
>
> Gary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers
>     <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Thanks to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick replies. 
>     They have me on the right track now. In my new wiring harness I
>     have one white wire that comes out of the harness behind the tach
>     and I assumed it plugged into the white wire (labeled "signal in")
>     on the back of the tach. My tach was rebuilt by Nisonger and has
>     the updated electronics.  I ohmed that wire out and it is the one
>     that goes to the ballast resistor.  So should I run a new wire
>     from the ignition switch to the tach and piggyback the ballast
>     wire to that?
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Joe Brown
>
>     On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:31 PM Donald Antilla
>
>         The starter solenoid temporarily supplies 12 volts to the. Oil
>         while the starter is cranking.
>         As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is
>         disconnected and the power to the coil is via the ballast
>         resistor.
>         It sounds like you either have a bad ballast resistor or
>         broken wiring to the ballast resistor.
>         Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the
>         resistor and see if it starts. If it does start you have a bad
>         resistor.
>         And if that does not work, start looking for lack of 12 volts
>         INTO. The ballast resistor.
>
>         From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
>         Or 203-264-8301 home
>
>         > On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers
>         >
>         >
>         > Hey,
>         >
>         > I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I
>         have a question.  When I turn the key to the start position
>         the engine turns over and fires up.  But as soon as I let go
>         of the key so that it returns to the run position it dies.  It
>         seems like the ignition system is only getting power when the
>         key is in the start position.
>         >
>         > I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.  The white/blue
>         wire from the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to
>         imply that there should always be 12V on this wire when the
>         key is in the run position.  Is this correct?  I'm only
>         getting the 12V on this line when the key is in the start
>         position.
>         >
>         > Any ideas?
>         >
>         > Thanks,
>         > Joe Brown
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    Uh, I think some of that is wrong info.. very confusing to me
    anyway.<br>
    <br>
    Leave the loop in the stock white wire(or straighten it out) but do
    NOT hook it back to the new tach.<br>
    That wire goes directly from the ignition switch to the top of the
    ballast resistor, needs NO connection<br>
    to your new tach.<br>
    <br>
    Your new white wire with spade needs an extension wire going to the
    low (negative) side of the<br>
    coil where the wire goes to the points (Pertronix).<br>
    <br>
    The +12 green wire needs to plug to the original spade on the back
    of the tach.<br>
    HTH,<br>
    Gary W.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/21/2019 7:09 AM, Donald Antilla
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Gary
            and Friends:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">
            I just had a good discussion with Peter Bayer who owns
            Nisonger Corporation and who modifies the 
tachs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Peter
            explained the entire circuitry to me and I will only
            summarize in words, then please view the attached file from
            Nisonger.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">The
            summary is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Keep
              the loop on the back of the tach intact. Do NOT remove nor
              disconnect. This SHOULD therefore provide 12 volt power to
              the ballast resistor<o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
              
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Route
              a wire from the female spade terminal at back of the
              updated tach TO the negative side of the ignition coil
              which has been equipped with the Pertronix 
system.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
        </ul>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Iâ??ve
            attached the instructions from Nisonger for you to 
follow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Peter
            Bayer is a smart and helpful person and is quite willing to
            receive a call from Gary and walk Gary through the
            instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I
            think once Gary talks with Peter while reading the attached
            instructions that all will be good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Peter
            Bayerâ??s number is (914) 381-3600<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Please
            let me know how it goes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Don
                Antilla <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Southbury,
                CT<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">203-264-8301
                Home<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">203-592-8427
                Cell<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Tigers
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 on behalf of Theo
              Smit via Tigers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Reply-To: </b>Theo Smit <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca";>&lt;tsmit@shaw.ca&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:49 PM<br>
              <b>To: </b>Gary <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>&lt;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b>tigers <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;Tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Starter 
Solenoid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">remember
                that TigersUnited.com is not dead, and among other
                resources it has a complete scan of the Tiger Workshop
                Manual, including good re-digitized drawings of the
                wiring diagram.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
href="http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/wsm/tt-images/MKIBIGwiring.jpg";
                  
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/wsm/tt-images/MKIBIGwiring.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">So,
                with respect to that drawing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-
                Your tach should be powered through the spade connector
                on the back of the tach. That should be connected to a
                green wire that is energized only when the ignition is
                on or in the start position.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-
                Your tach should be grounded through the black
                daisy-chain wires that need to be connected to the dash
                frame somewhere (not just gauge to gauge to 
gauge).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-
                The OEM wiring has the coil power run through a white
                wire, looped through the transformer U-shaped metal
                piece and plastic frame that is mounted on the back of
                the tach. It kind of sounds like the Nissonger rebuild
                gave you an alternate means of sensing the ignition with
                their white "signal in" line. You should have got a
                wiring diagram with the tach, if they changed the way it
                can be wired up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-
                That OEM white wire needs to connect to one end of the
                ballast resistor as shown in the wiring diagram (and the
                other end plugs into the ignition switch, not the tach).
                It supplies power to the coil through the ballast
                resistor when the car is running.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-
                The white/blue wire runs from the solenoid to the
                ballast resistor to the coil positive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">It
                sounds like you need to make sure that the white wire
                you plugged into the tach, is connected to the ballast
                resistor at the other end. If so, unplug the tach end,
                loop it through the transformer block, and plug it into
                the #2 terminal on the ignition switch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">If
                the tach works properly, then you're good. If it does
                not, then try looping the white wire through the
                transformer block in the opposite direction. If that
                still fails (but the engine runs properly), then abandon
                the transformer and use Nissonger's signal wire. As Gary
                says, that wire should be connected using a new
                extension wire to the coil negative terminal ( where the
                points connect ).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Good
                luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Theo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            align="center"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
              <hr width="100%" size="0" align="center"></span></div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
                </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"tigers"
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>To: </b>"Joe Brown" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com";>&lt;jbbrown1980@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc: </b>"tigers" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;Tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:22:28 PM<br>
                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Starter 
Solenoid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                Signal wire should probably wire to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">the
                  points or low side of the coil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                  white wire should not end at the tach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">but
                  would do a one loop through the coil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">pickup
                  on the back of the stock tach and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">then
                  run to the ballast.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">You
                  do need 12v to the back of the tach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">spade
                  terminal and a ground.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Gary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sent
                    from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                      Nov 20, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;</a> 
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks
                        to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick
                        replies.  They have me on the right track now. 
                        In my new wiring harness I have one white wire
                        that comes out of the harness behind the tach
                        and I assumed it plugged into the white wire
                        (labeled "signal in") on the back of the tach. 
                        My tach was rebuilt by Nisonger and has the
                        updated electronics.  I ohmed that wire out and
                        it is the one that goes to the ballast
                        resistor.  So should I run a new wire from the
                        ignition switch to the tach and piggyback the
                        ballast wire to that?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Joe
                          Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                          Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:31 PM Donald Antilla
                          &lt;<a href="mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net";
                            target="_blank" 
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                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                          starter solenoid temporarily supplies 12 volts
                          to the. Oil while the starter is cranking. <br>
                          As soon as you release the key that temporary
                          12 volts is disconnected and the power to the
                          coil is via the ballast resistor. <br>
                          It sounds like you either have a bad ballast
                          resistor or broken wiring to the ballast
                          resistor. <br>
                          Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the
                          two tabs on the resistor and see if it starts.
                          If it does start you have a bad resistor. <br>
                          And if that does not work, start looking for
                          lack of 12 volts INTO. The ballast resistor. <br>
                          <br>
                          From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>
                          Or 203-264-8301 home<br>
                          <br>
                          &gt; On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown
                          via Tigers &lt;<a
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                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Hey,<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; I'm trying to fire up my engine for the
                          first time and I have a question.  When I turn
                          the key to the start position the engine turns
                          over and fires up.  But as soon as I let go of
                          the key so that it returns to the run position
                          it dies.  It seems like the ignition system is
                          only getting power when the key is in the
                          start position. <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; I'm a little confused by the wiring
                          diagram.  The white/blue wire from the
                          solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem
                          to imply that there should always be 12V on
                          this wire when the key is in the run
                          position.  Is this correct?  I'm only getting
                          the 12V on this line when the key is in the
                          start position.  <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Any ideas?<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Thanks,<br>
                          &gt; Joe Brown<br>
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