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Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: British car colors from the 60's
From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:45:19 -0500
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Subtle differences? Sure.=20

Different shades? Probably not.

Can a concours judge be expected to separate non-Rootes BRG from Forest Gree=
n #86?  Yes, I would think so.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger=20
Series I Alpine=20

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Date: January 7, 2020 at 12:28:53 PM EST
> To: <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's
> Reply-To: Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>
>=20
> A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief bei=
ng on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9CLike many things Tiger it might be that ea=
ch color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and=
 even waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that simply based on a=
 hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arg=
uing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be s=
een as the =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical=
 twins there are still subtle differences.
> =20
> From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's
> =20
> It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled d=
own, I would like to add a comment based on  dealership employment back in t=
he early 70's.  These comments apply to all the popular British marques.  In=
 the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracie=
s that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn=
't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch.  The s=
ales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7=
 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especial=
ly the BRG ones.  They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and t=
hey could come pick the one they liked the best.  That being said, which gre=
en or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to d=
iscussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just b=
ecause you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that s=
omeone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different sha=
de.  When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors=
 need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend=
 a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">Subtle differences? Sure.&nbsp;</span><div><span style=3D"back=
ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"=
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Different shades? Probably not.</=
span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b=
r></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);=
">Can a concours judge be expected to separate non-Rootes BRG from Forest Gr=
een #86? &nbsp;Yes, I would think so.<br></span><div><span style=3D"backgrou=
nd-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"back=
ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Allan Ballard</span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mk1a Tiger&nbsp;</span></=
div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Series I A=
lpine&nbsp;</span></div></div><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><b>From:</b> Tom Witt vi=
a Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt;<br><b>Date:</b> January 7, 2020 at 12:28:53 PM EST<br><b>To:</b> &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's</b><br><b>Re=
ply-To:</b> Tom Witt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:atwittsend@verizon.net";>atwittsen=
d@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief=20=

being on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9C<em>Like many things Tiger it might be t=
hat each=20
color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and ev=
en=20
waxing treatments alter the shade</em>.=E2=80=9D And that simply based on a h=
unch given=20
other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about wh=
o=20
has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the=20
=E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical twins ther=
e are still subtle=20
differences.</div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.=
net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>clyde mclaughlin via Tigers</a> <=
/div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's</div></div></=
div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Ca=
libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt arial">It looks like now the discussi=
ons on=20
the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment base=
d on=20
dealership employment back in the early 70's.&nbsp; These comments apply to a=
ll=20
the popular British marques.&nbsp; In the early 60's thru late 70's the pain=
t=20
blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint=
=20
mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the aftern=
oon=20
after a "2 Pint" lunch.&nbsp; The sales staff at one dealership I worked at=20=

would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same colo=
r,=20
but none were the same, especially the BRG ones.&nbsp; They would call the=20=

buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they like=
d=20
the best.&nbsp; That being said, which green or any other color for that mat=
ter=20
is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all=
=20
probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it h=
as=20
original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same=20
"correct" color but be a different shade.&nbsp; When it comes to Sunbeam col=
ors=20
I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really l=
ook=20
good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its ju=
st=20
my personal taste.&nbsp; </div>
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