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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:06:15 -0800
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Stu is the winna...
Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes  to Sunbeam Tiger 
distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.

One good description from: 
https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/

The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January 
1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.

Most of the new regulations simply codified best practice; requiring all 
vehicles to have padded instrument panels, recessed inside door handles, 
non-rigid armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, 
twin-circuit brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of 
the windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and 
four-way hazard flashers.

Other regulations required new features: energy-absorbing steering 
columns, a warning lamp for brake circuit depressurization, minimal 
post-collision fuel spillage, front and rear side marker lights or 
reflectors, and windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and 
improved retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 
kph) crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of 
standardized test dummies in the front seats.

etc...

Gary



On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
> IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, 
> but they were also much wider.  The budget to do a major redesign of 
> the engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it 
> bumper?) requirements was not there,  So Tigers ended in '67.
>
> Stu
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers 
>
>     While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was
>     aware that the inability of clearance available to accommodate the
>     rear position of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of
>     the Tiger.
>
>     I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic
>     firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb
>     installation. Just wondering if that might have worked/been a
>     possibility.  Probably would have been to expensive a change to
>     tool for.
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    Stu is the winna...<br>
    Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes  to Sunbeam Tiger
    distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.<br>
    <br>
    One good description from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/";>https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/</a><br>
    <br>
    The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January
    1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.
    <p data-adtags-visited="true">Most of the new regulations simply
      codified best practice; requiring all vehicles to have padded
      instrument panels, recessed inside door handles, non-rigid
      armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, twin-circuit
      brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of the
      windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and
      four-way hazard flashers.</p>
    <p data-adtags-visited="true">Other regulations required new
      features: energy-absorbing steering columns, a warning lamp for
      brake circuit depressurization, minimal post-collision fuel
      spillage, front and rear side marker lights or reflectors, and
      windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and improved
      retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 kph)
      crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of
      standardized test dummies in the front seats.</p>
    etc...<br>
    <br>
    Gary<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">IIRC Chrysler
          V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, but
          they were also much wider.  The budget to do a major redesign
          of the engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety
          (or was it bumper?) requirements was not there,  So Tigers
          ended in '67.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Stu</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM
          Curt Bowland via Tigers &lt;<a
            href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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              While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread
              I was aware that the inability of clearance available to
              accommodate the rear position of the distributor was THE
              issue for the demise of the Tiger.</div>
            <div style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
              MS&quot;,Chalkboard,cursive;font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
              <br>
            </div>
            <div style="font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
              MS&quot;,Chalkboard,cursive;font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
              I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly
              dramatic firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate
              Weber Carb installation. Just wondering if that might have
              worked/been a possibility.  Probably would have been to
              expensive a change to tool for.</div>
          </div>
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