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From: Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:12:16 -0800
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I think Gary is spot on. Question, does that mean we are all test =
dummies? J/k

> On Mar 7, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> Stu is the winna...
> Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes  to Sunbeam Tiger =
distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.
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> One good description from: =
https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduc=
e-automotive-safety-standards/ =
<https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introdu=
ce-automotive-safety-standards/>
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> The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January =
1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.
> Most of the new regulations simply codified best practice; requiring =
all vehicles to have padded instrument panels, recessed inside door =
handles, non-rigid armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, =
twin-circuit brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of =
the windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and =
four-way hazard flashers.
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> Other regulations required new features: energy-absorbing steering =
columns, a warning lamp for brake circuit depressurization, minimal =
post-collision fuel spillage, front and rear side marker lights or =
reflectors, and windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and =
improved retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 =
kph) crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of =
standardized test dummies in the front seats.
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> etc...
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> Gary
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> On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
>> IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, =
but they were also much wider.  The budget to do a major redesign of the =
engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it =
bumper?) requirements was not there,  So Tigers ended in '67.
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>> Stu
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>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers =
>> While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware =
that the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear =
position of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.
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>> I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic =
firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. =
Just wondering if that might have worked/been a possibility.  Probably =
would have been to expensive a change to tool for.
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class="">I think Gary is spot on. Question, does that mean we are all test 
dummies?&nbsp;J/k</span><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" 
class=""><div class="">On Mar 7, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Gary via Tigers &lt;<a 
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    Stu is the winna...<br class="">
    Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes&nbsp; to Sunbeam Tiger
    distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.<br class="">
    <br class="">
    One good description from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/";>https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/</a><br
 class="">
    <br class="">
    The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January
    1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.
    <p data-adtags-visited="true" class="">Most of the new regulations simply
      codified best practice; requiring all vehicles to have padded
      instrument panels, recessed inside door handles, non-rigid
      armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, twin-circuit
      brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of the
      windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and
      four-way hazard flashers.</p><p data-adtags-visited="true" class="">Other 
regulations required new
      features: energy-absorbing steering columns, a warning lamp for
      brake circuit depressurization, minimal post-collision fuel
      spillage, front and rear side marker lights or reflectors, and
      windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and improved
      retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 kph)
      crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of
      standardized test dummies in the front seats.</p>
    etc...<br class="">
    <br class="">
    Gary<br class="">
    <br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">IIRC Chrysler
          V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, but
          they were also much wider.&nbsp; The budget to do a major redesign
          of the engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety
          (or was it bumper?) requirements was not there,&nbsp; So Tigers
          ended in '67.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Stu</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM
          Curt Bowland via Tigers &lt;<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true" class="">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
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              While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread
              I was aware that the inability of clearance available to
              accommodate the rear position of the distributor was THE
              issue for the demise of the Tiger.</div>
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              I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly
              dramatic firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate
              Weber Carb installation. Just wondering if that might have
              worked/been a possibility.&nbsp; Probably would have been to
              expensive a change to tool for.</div>
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