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To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>, Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
From: Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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 There is some truth to the hammer on the firewall.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I can tell =
you that the Shelby Prototype Tiger still has the indented hammer marks in =
the firewall from when it went back to Shelby to get a 289 installed.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 I can also tell you George Boskoff hated that modification and told =
me I needed to fix it before taking the car to Tigers United.=C2=A0=C2=A0 H=
e didn't want anyone thinking that it was him making that modification as h=
e would have done it with a little more finesse.


Jere Kirkpatrick - installation of a HiPo 289 in the Shelby Sunbeam Tiger P=
rototype.

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    On Saturday, May 14, 2022, 08:33:15 AM PDT, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 When one considers the hinge is chrome, not body color it stands to=20
reason that the body and trunk (boot) were painted and then the three=20
pieces assembled. IF..., in fact the stud is painted at the factory it=20
might be that the topside was painted, the hinge attached by the stud=20
only and then hung to paint the underside. Just a guess but at least a=20
possibility (not trying to create a big hammer on the firewall urban=20
legend here).

On 5/14/2022 7:22 AM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:
> I'm guessing the purpose of a flat screw is to avoid damage being inflict=
ed upon the rubber trunk seal which is immediately below.
>=C2=A0=20
> Whether it should be painted or not, my sparse few examples are not relia=
ble to say.
>=C2=A0=20
> It occurs to me that leaving it unpainted makes practical sense given its=
 contact with the rubber trunk seal, which would rub off the paint over tim=
e.
>=C2=A0=20
>=C2=A0=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Lindner
> Sent: May 14, 2022 8:36 AM
> To: Ron Fraser
> Cc: Allan Ballard ,
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>=C2=A0=20
> Just to confuse the matter more=E2=80=A6there is a supposedly all-origina=
l survivor for sale on eBay. In the photo of the trunk it shows the hinge s=
crews as NOT painted=E2=80=A6but the studs are painted.
>=C2=A0=20
> I know the claim of all original could be suspect, but thought it was wor=
th sharing.
>=C2=A0=20
> Jim
>=C2=A0=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=C2=A0=20
>=C2=A0=20
> Sent from my iPad
>=C2=A0=20
>> On May 14, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>>
>> Allan
>> The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.
>>
>> The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
>> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
>>
>> The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the tru=
nk
>> hinge
>> 2203571 Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
>> This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the wo=
rd
>> Special is not there.
>>
>> This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
>>
>> Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license p=
late
>> screw.
>>
>> I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via
>> Tigers
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
>> To: Jay Laifman
>> Cc: Tiger List List
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>
>> These are going on my Forest
>> Green Mk1a Tiger:
>>
>>
>>
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                    On Saturday, May 14, 2022, 08:33:15 AM PDT, Tom Witt vi=
a Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">When one considers the hinge is chrom=
e, not body color it stands to <br clear=3D"none">reason that the body and =
trunk (boot) were painted and then the three <br clear=3D"none">pieces asse=
mbled. IF..., in fact the stud is painted at the factory it <br clear=3D"no=
ne">might be that the topside was painted, the hinge attached by the stud <=
br clear=3D"none">only and then hung to paint the underside. Just a guess b=
ut at least a <br clear=3D"none">possibility (not trying to create a big ha=
mmer on the firewall urban <br clear=3D"none">legend here).<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">On 5/14/2022 7:22 AM, Allan Ballard via Tigers wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I'm guessing the purpose of a flat screw is to avoi=
d damage being inflicted upon the rubber trunk seal which is immediately be=
low.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Whether it shoul=
d be painted or not, my sparse few examples are not reliable to say.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; It occurs to me that leavin=
g it unpainted makes practical sense given its contact with the rubber trun=
k seal, which would rub off the paint over time.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbs=
p;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -----Original Me=
ssage-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt; From: James Lindner<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; Sent: May 14, 2022 8:36 AM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; To: Ron Fraser<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Cc: Allan Ballard ,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: Re: [Tig=
ers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Just to confuse the matter more=E2=80=A6there is a supposedl=
y all-original survivor for sale on eBay. In the photo of the trunk it show=
s the hinge screws as NOT painted=E2=80=A6but the studs are painted.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I know the claim of all ori=
ginal could be suspect, but thought it was worth sharing.<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Jim<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br =
clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none=
">&gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent from my iPad<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt;&nbsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; On May 14, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Ron Fra=
ser wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Allan<br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is =
not correct.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; The fast=
eners should be natural color, not painted.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; The =
trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; The March 1963 shows this screw in t=
he Series I &amp; II section for the trunk<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; hinge=
<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; 2203571 Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt;&gt; This screw is also listed for the Series III &amp; IV t=
runk hinge but the word<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Special is not there.<br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; This screw # does not s=
how up in the ZY section of the Parts List.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw m=
uch like a license plate<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; screw.<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; I know my trunk hinge fasteners are n=
ot original so no help there.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt;&gt; Ron Fraser<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
&gt; From: Tigers On Behalf Of Allan Ballard via<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;=
 Tigers<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM<br =
clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; To: Jay Laifman<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Cc: Tige=
r List List<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk =
hinge fasteners<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; These=
 are going on my Forest<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Green Mk1a Tiger:<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;<=
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