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Re: Problems tunning dual SU HS2's on Spitfire

To: triumphs@autox.team.net, dave@ECE.concordia.CA (Dave Chu)
Subject: Re: Problems tunning dual SU HS2's on Spitfire
From: muntsb@HiWAAY.net
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 13:04:49 GMT
References: <9606170612.aa27069@ece.ECE.concordia.CA><9606180832.ZM11400@zeu.tt.umist.ac.uk>
On 6/18/96 2:32AM, in message <9606180832.ZM11400@zeu.tt.umist.ac.uk>, "Chris 
Boston" <spitfire@zeu.tt.umist.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I'm not sure about the HS2s, but I retuned my HS4s last night.
> 
> BEFORE TOUCHING THE CARBS: Make sure everything else is set first, eg tappets,
> points, timing, plugs, etc.  THEN:
> 
> 1. disconnect the choke cable.
> 
> 2. Screw the fast idle screws well clear of the cams.
> 
> 3. Clean Everything!
> 
> 4. Screw the jets up to be flush with the bridge. (mark the fronts for ref.)
> 
> 5. Screw the jets down by twelve flats (2 complete turns)
> 
> 6. Start the engine and get the car up to temperature if not already.
> 
> 7. Balance the carbs and set the slow idle speed, using a balance meter.
> 
> 8. Run the engine at 2500 revs for at least 30 seconds.
> 
> 9. Check the emmissions, or use a colourtune to check mixture.
> 
> 10. Adjust both jets equally, up to weaken, down to enrich.
> 
> 11. When correct, re-adjust and balance the slow idle if necessary.
> 
> 12. Connect the choke cable, leaving about 1/16 inch free play.
> 
> 13. engage the choke to the point where it is just about to enrich the jets.
> 
> 14. Set and balance the fast idle using the balance meter.
> 
> NOTES:
> ------
> If correct mixture setting cannot be achieved within a couple of minutes, run
> at 2500 rpm for thirty seconds again before continuing.
> 
> Adjust jets by one flat at a time (same direction on both carbs), allowing a
> little time for the exhaust meter to catch up (or colourtune to stabilise).
> 
> If the jets need adjusting by more than about 4 flats, there is likely to be a
> problem with one or more of the carbs.
> 
> Slow idle speed 650 to 850 rpm
> 
> Fast idle speed 1100 to 1300 rpm
> 
> Emmissions (UK HS4) 2.5 to 4.5 percent
> 
> Dwell angle 46 to 56 degrees
> 
> timing (UK 1500 spit) 10 degrees before top dead centre
> 
> valve clearences 10 thou. when cold.
> 
> spark plug gaps 25 thou.
> 
> *** ABOVE ALL***, Make sure that everything else is set correctly before
> touching the carbs.
> 
> I hope the above is useful, but I must stress the above fugures and procedures
> applies to the HS4s on my UK 1500.  I cannot vouch for their applicability to
> HS2s on a US spec car.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Chris.
> 
> -- 
> -- 1977 Spitfire 1500...Everyday/Only Driver.
> --
> 

Dave,

    I have a 1970 MK III Spit with HS2's.  I agree with everything that Chris 
pointed out except that my engine runs best at 8 BTDC dynamic.  The other thing 
I would recommend is to get the rebuild kit and rebuild the carbs.  The kit 
does not cost much and it forces you to CLEAN and reset everything.  I had a 
lot of trouble tuning my carbs untill I did the rebuild.  Now my carbs are easy 
to tune (or as easy as they can be) and the tune dosen't seem to change much.  
The other important item is a good shop manual.  The book titled "SU Caburetors 
- Tuning Tips and Techniques" is a good one to have.

Hope this helps,

Bill Munts
1970 MK III Spitfire  


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