Is this the lawyer/doctor bashing maillist???????
Mike
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> From Paulsv@aol.com Wed Jul 30 08:21:16 1997
> From: Paulsv@aol.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:19:16 -0400 (EDT)
> To: joe-schneider@nwu.edu, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: lawyer story RESPONSE (no lbc BUT IMPORTANT)
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> In a message dated 97-07-30 00:33:36 EDT, joe-schneider@nwu.edu (Joseph
> Schneider) writes:
>
> << my friends and acquaintances in Canada (including two vascular surgeons at
> U of Toronto and another at East Toronto General) pay malpractice premiums
> that are less than 10% of mine, I believe it's because plaintiffs'
> attorneys are predators in this country >>
>
> I disagree. No plaintiff's attorney brings a suit without a plaintiff (your
> patient) pushing him to do it. That is where the "predators" are. And what
> makes them predatory? Could it have something to do with the fact that:
> Doctors act as if they were Gods; they make you wait weeks for an
> appointment and then hours after that appointment time in their waiting rooms
> (see how fast a lawyer would get fired by a client he did this to) and then
> often just dismiss the patient with a cursory exam, and no opportunity for
> discussion; The AMA strictly controls medical school admissions to protect
> their monopoly (and every Doctor's God given right to make $600,000 or more a
> year - currently earning a national average about 4 times the national
> average for lawyers) resulting in a flood of foreign doctors (I cant remember
> seeing more than a handful of non-foreign doctors in the last 10 years) and a
> shortage of doctors in small towns, when very well qualified US students
> cant get into medical schools?
> These "Predatory" patients feel victimized when the doctor's fee for a two
> hour operation, with one follow up visit, is over $6,000: and you call
> lawyers predators?
> The cost of legal fees has not kept pace with inflation for many years. The
> cost of medical care has far exceeded the inflation rate.
>
> Yes people are pissed off enough about lawyers to make jokes about them, but
> they are pissed off enough about doctors to sue them whenever they get the
> chance, and to rule against them when they serve on a jury. And doctors,
> IMHO screw up more than they should because they are too busy. The
> Plaintiff's lawyers don't get paid unless they win. Medical malpraactice
> lawyers that I have talked to say that for this reason they turn down many
> more cases than they take- they only want to take sure winners. And finally,
> I am told that they could not win their cases without expert testimony FROM
> OTHER DOCTORS who say that the doctor screwed up, on the basis of established
> knowledge and procedures. More predators I guess.
>
> And finally, Canada has a nationalized medical program where doctors do not
> have the same incentives to restrict the number of doctors, grossly
> overcharge patients, and take on too much work. There is the real reason for
> the lower insurance premiums. Predatory lawyers my ass! YOU are the
> problem, buddy, and the problem will exist until you clean house, or the
> insurance companies and government clean it for you.
> Flamethrower Off, Nomex on.
> Paul S. Vander Woude
>
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