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Re: Tie rods - washer necessary?

To: Justin Wagner <>
Subject: Re: Tie rods - washer necessary?
From: Bob Lang <LANG@ISIS.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:40:10 -0400 (EDT)
Cc:, triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Justin Wagner wrote:

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> I don't fully agree...  Let me quote from Carroll Smith's book: "Nuts,
> Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing Handbook" (Carroll Smith:  professional
> racer, driver, team manager, driver coach/guru, and, most importantly, a
> design/develpment engineer.)
> "Nylon collar elastic stop nuts cannot harm the bolt threads, are
> reuseable many times and are also available as castellated nuts.  They
> are manufactured to AN specs ....
> I use AN variety."

I have the book. I have read it.

I don't re-use stop nuts on critical suspension components.

You can't be too safe.

You can re-use them if you want.

> And in my own experience, I feel they can be re-used.  Certainly, I
> start to get nervous about re-using the ones that came with the car,
> that, through appearance or ease of installation, seem worn out, or that
> are of
> unknown origin, etc. (particularly on such critical areas...) BUT Jeff
> asked, if he needed to replace the one he just intalled...which suggests
> to me, it's KNOWN TO BE a relatively new nut... and he's wondering if it
> should be replaced, just because he's used it once or twice...  NO, I
> don't think so.

> If in doubt... just add locktite...  and, of course, always torque
> properly.

I'd like to point out that the original post indicates that mechanic 
doing the work may not have followed procedure. This, in effect, 
indicates that caution should be used here. That is all.

> My 2 cents.   I do recommend Carroll's book... it's a good read.

I agree.

In fact the whole series "***** to Win" is really good.

> --Justin

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