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RE: TR3 Overheating?

To: "'Adrian Jones'" <AdrianJones@compuserve.com>, triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: TR3 Overheating?
From: "Musson, Carl" <musson@satie.arts.usf.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:41:11 -0400
Adrian - do you have the radiator shroud on?  Cardboard or metal deflector
that channels the air flow through the radiator?   That it absolutely
necessary for a TR3A - not sure whether you have a '3 or '3A and not sure if
it is true for a '3.

Carl


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Adrian Jones [SMTP:AdrianJones@compuserve.com]
        Sent:   Saturday, May 22, 1999 3:49 PM
        To:     triumphs
        Subject:        TR3 Overheating?


        Hi Folks,
        Well, I'm in another quandary (other projects will have to wait -
heater
        replacement, valve noise, distributor springs, bikini top)
        Seems the old thing is overheating.  Read on:
        While I was putting in one of those new Moss Motors skirted
thermostats, I
        took the opportunity to "calibrate" the temp gauge.
        The needle half way is 70C (158F), three-quarters is 90C (194F) and
just
        below the red zone is 98C (208F).  The last point was with the pan
of water
        boiling.  The Moss Motors sleeved thermostat started opening at 75C
(167F),
        BTW.
        Both Haynes and Ball say the temp should not exceed 85C (185F)
        OK, today with an ambient temp of 80F, we went on a 10 mile trip
"round the
        block" - country roads, zero traffic and I'm getting 90C.
Yesterday,
        coming home from work, again an ambient of 80F, with moderate
traffic,
        stopping at traffic lights and such, it actually went into the red
zone
        until I could get to the open road.  Needless to say I was very
worried
        about doing some horrendous damage.
        The question is: is this sort of normal for a TR3?
        BTW, no matter how much coolant I put in, whenever I check  the
level after
        a run, it has always dropped to 1/4" from the bottom of the "long
neck".
        Let me tell you what I've done so far:
        Replaced and properly tensioned the fan belt (Remember that!)
        New coolant.
        New rad cap.
        New Castrol 20-50W.
        New sleeved Moss thermostat.
        Checked ignition timing.
        Plugs - they look wonderful, with a nice tan brown color.
        Installed two 12 oz overflow reservoirs for radiator (No, not beer
cans!!)
        The PO says the radiator was checked out.
        There's zero sign of oil in the water and vice versa.
        The cardboard deflector for the radiator is in place and looks in
good
        shape.
        Rad hoses feel good. 

        According to Bob Schalers wonderful booklet (from TRF) I should be
looking
        at getting an oil cooler.  I'm assuming the front apron has to come
off for
        that installation. That seems major - anything easy I"ve missed?

        Anyhows, any comments would be appreciated, as always,   Adrian

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