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Re: JUDGES question....TR-3A dash recovering and metal clips

To: <ArthurK101@aol.com>
Subject: Re: JUDGES question....TR-3A dash recovering and metal clips
From: "Fred Thomas" <vafred@erols.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:43:14 -0500charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
References: <39.171c106.25deec84@aol.com>
And I remember it very well, the absolute best return of any trophy awarded
for the pride this owner had, I look forward to seeing his car this year,
great example of helping.  "FT"
----- Original Message -----
From: <ArthurK101@aol.com>
To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Cc: <105671.471@compuserve.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: JUDGES question....TR-3A dash recovering and metal clips


>
> In a message dated 17-Feb-00 12:02:34 Eastern Standard Time,
> 105671.471@compuserve.com writes:
>
> > 10 to 20 minutes is typical.  30 minutes if the judges are feeling a bit
> >  anal.
> >  Would they notice the clips or the absence there of?  I don't know.
Would
> >  they notice philips head screws where slotted ones should be?  Yup.
> >
> >  I'm speaking of VTR.  I have no experience with TRA.
> >
> >  Dave Massey
>
> Right, but remember that the amount of points taken off is not large.  You
> start with 400 points.  You then get points deducted for "discrepancies."
> Many folks will not enter concours because they feel that every little
ding
> or bump will cost points.
>
> That is not how it works.  For example, if you have many paint dings, you
> don't get a point off for each ding.  You get a reasonable amount (say
five
> points) off for "paintwork."  I was amazed at the VTR SE Regional last
year
> at the number of folks who would not enter concours because they didn't
> understand how the judging works.  The judges are NOT trying to "get you."
> They are trying to compare your car to the original specs. NOT to the
other
> cars.  The amount of points taken off are not excessive.  To win you must
> have a minimum number of points left from the 400 (1st place 350, 2nd
place
> 300 ad 3rd place 250).  Believe me the car would have to be really bad to
> lose 150points).  The car with the most points above that minimum wins.
>
> My car is a daily driver and I never get 1st place -- but that's fine.  I
> probably could if I spent more time on the cosmetic aspects, but I choose
not
> to do that.  I don't lose points for originallity because I've owned the
car
> from new and try to replace parts with original or reasonably original
parts.
>  so I take my knocks for the paint job or chrome but have never gone below
> 300 points.  AND -- It is fun to watch the judging when you are on the
field
> yourself and to receive any award.  Plus I learn more each time I enter
the
> car in concourse.
>
> I talked one fellow into going concours and he won an award.  He was
scared
> to death before the show but told me later it was the best thing he had
ever
> done.  He was very proud of his award (it was not 1st place) and what he
> learned spurred him on to work on his car.  IMO
>
> Art Kelly
>


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