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Re: [TR] VINs

To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" <auprichard@uprichard.net>, "'Triumphs'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] VINs
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 14:10:26 -0800
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Andrew,

 

I have seen many mangled "VIN Numbers" on vintage car titles.

 

Apparently when DMV's across the country became computerized, there was no
standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5
digit serial number.  

 

The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13 zeros
in front of the 4 digit serial number.

 

I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag
number

 

 

 

 

 

Jonas Payne

PBR Consulting Services, LLC

702.882.6711

 

We have Moved!

Our new offices are locted at:

 

3191 E. Warm Springs Rd. #13

Las Vegas, NV 89120

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM
Subject: [TR] VINs

 

I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  The
old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told that "Os" and "Is" are no
longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to
"L0".  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to
them and have them send me a proof of insurance with "L0".

 

Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I have
4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, MI


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class=3DMsoNormal>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have seen =
many mangled &#8220;VIN Numbers&#8221; on vintage car =
titles.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Apparently when DMV&#8217;s across the country became =
computerized, there was no standard on how to input 17 digits in on a =
title for a car with a 4 or 5 digit serial number.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii =
was to insert 13 zeros in front of the 4 digit serial =
number.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was =
AHEALEYBJ then the body tag number<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jonas =
Payne<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>PBR Consulting Services, =
LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>702.882.6711<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i>We =
have Moved!<o:p></o:p></i></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Our new offices =
are locted at:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>3191 E. Warm =
Springs Rd. #13<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Las Vegas, NV =
89120<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Triumphs' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> [TR] VINs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>I just went to get a title =
on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.&nbsp; The old title =
appropriately ended &#8220;LO&#8221;, but I was told that =
&#8220;Os&#8221; and &#8220;Is&#8221; are no longer acceptable in =
titles.&nbsp; So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =
&#8220;L0&#8221;.&nbsp; Then I had to call the insurance company to =
explain the same story to them and have them send me a proof of =
insurance with &#8220;L0&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Anyone else come across =
this?&nbsp; Maybe it has been going on for years:&nbsp; I have 4 cars =
with overdrive, but this was the first factory =
one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Andrew =
Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Jackson, =
MI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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