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Re: [TR] what is going on?????

To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] what is going on?????
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 23:53:34 -0500
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Probably worth checking for parasitic draws on the battery, too.  I had an
issue once upon a time where the insulation to the headlight wiring to the
right side had been worn through, leading to battery drains and burned
connectors.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:17 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:

> I had a 1988 XJ Cherokee for twenty plus years.  Loved it, but the Jeep
> was buggy.  Wait until you get into the closed cooling system...
>
> My brother and I found some ground loops that were playing havoc with the
> electrical system.  Bonded some of the major assemblies together and it
> made it a lot happier.  You might check to make sure the different parts =
of
> the XJ are on the same ground plane.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:58 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
>> We bought a car a few months ago (an 88 jeep actually).  Wasn=E2=80=99t =
running
>> or driving, needed some work, battery was dead.
>>
>>
>>
>> Today we finally got it running and driving using a known good battery
>> from another car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Set the jeep=E2=80=99s battery up on a charger a day or two ago and deci=
ded to
>> try it in the jeep after all we succeeded in getting it running and driv=
ing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hooked up the positive first, then touching the negative caused a
>> spark!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Double checked that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to
>> the electrical system.
>>
>>
>>
>> The multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal and the black on
>> the negative, read -9.97
>>
>>
>>
>> Reversed it and got 9.97.
>>
>>
>>
>> Checked the good battery =E2=80=93 no, the multimeter is not broken.
>>
>>
>>
>> Checked the jeep=E2=80=99s old battery again, same results.  Good batter=
y =E2=80=93 same
>> results (about 12.97)
>>
>>
>>
>> What is going on????  how is this possible?  Yes, we are replacing the
>> battery but if someone had told me this story I would have told him he m=
ust
>> have mixed up the terminals, that its not possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone explain this to me?
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes, we are replacing the battery
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Probably worth checking for parasitic draws on the battery=
, too.=C2=A0 I had an issue once upon a time where the insulation to the he=
adlight wiring to the right side had been worn through, leading to battery =
drains and burned connectors.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:17 PM Don Hiscock =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com";>don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I had a 1988 XJ Cherokee for twenty plus years.=C2=A0 Loved it, bu=
t the Jeep was buggy.=C2=A0 Wait until you get into the closed cooling syst=
em...<div><br></div><div>My brother and I found some ground loops that were=
 playing havoc with the electrical system.=C2=A0 Bonded some of the major a=
ssemblies together and it made it a lot happier.=C2=A0 You might check to m=
ake sure the different parts of the XJ are on the same ground plane.</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:58 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">We bought a car a few months ago (an 88 jeep actually).=C2=A0 Wasn=
=E2=80=99t running or driving, needed some work, battery was dead.<u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Today we finally got it running and driving using a known good battery =
from another car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Set the jeep=E2=80=99s battery up on a charge=
r a day or two ago and decided to try it in the jeep after all we succeeded=
 in getting it running and driving.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hooked up the positive firs=
t, then touching the negative caused a spark!!!!<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Double checke=
d that we had the ground to the engine and the positive to the electrical s=
ystem.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">The multimeter, with the red on the positive terminal an=
d the black on the negative, read -9.97<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Reversed it and got 9.9=
7.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Checked the good battery =E2=80=93 no, the multimeter is not=
 broken.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Checked the jeep=E2=80=99s old battery again, same res=
ults.=C2=A0 Good battery =E2=80=93 same results (about 12.97)<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">W=
hat is going on????=C2=A0 how is this possible?=C2=A0 Yes, we are replacing=
 the battery but if someone had told me this story I would have told him he=
 must have mixed up the terminals, that its not possible.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can a=
nyone explain this to me?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And yes, we are replacing the batte=
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