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To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Incantation
From: Bill Babbitt <wbabbitt@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 19:35:01 -0500
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Some 40+ years ago I helped a friend with a TR4 swap out a standard 4 speed f=
or an overdrive transmission.=20
Didn=E2=80=99t mess with the clutch, but couldn=E2=80=99t get the OD trans i=
n.=20
Ultimately had to recenter the clutch disc.=20
Bob=E2=80=99s your uncle !! Slid right in !!
Apparently, the weight of the transmission (and our maneuvering it around) w=
as enough to jog the clutch disc off center.=20

thanks,
Bill

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 11, 2021, at 7:13 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:=

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> Exactly, Frank. A few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the=20
> ancient language. I've checked the Bentley's and, for some=20
> reason, it's not in there!
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> All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?
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> Dave =20
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>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59 PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:=

>> then it should go right back in with just a little swearing in the ancien=
t language
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>> frank
>>=20
>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST, David Friedlander <forzi=
on7@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Do I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot bushing if
>> I never disassembled the clutch? I only worked on the=20
>> gearbox, not the clutch....
>>=20
>> Dave
>>=20
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>>=20
>> You used a clutch disc centering tool to align the clutch disc to the pil=
ot bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin smear of grease on the leading ed=
ge of the  gearbox gears?  You have the bottom of the bellhousing sitting on=
 a 2X4 over the crossmember. Otherwise just try to line it up as best as pos=
sible (It helps to have you looking down and a second person looking at the s=
ide). have the gearbox in 4th gear & when the shaft & disc splines touch, wi=
ggle the rear output shaft a little to get the splines lined up. Maybe putti=
ng out a wee dram of Baleys the night before can't hurt and you can finish o=
ff whatever is left after the spline slides in.
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>> TeriAnn
>>> On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?=
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>>> Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
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>>> Dave
>>> '59 TR3A
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Some 40+ years ago I helped a friend with a=
 TR4 swap out a standard 4 speed for an overdrive transmission.&nbsp;<div>Di=
dn=E2=80=99t mess with the clutch, but couldn=E2=80=99t get the OD trans in.=
&nbsp;</div><div>Ultimately had to recenter the clutch disc.&nbsp;</div><div=
>Bob=E2=80=99s your uncle !! Slid right in !!</div><div>Apparently, the weig=
ht of the transmission (and our maneuvering it around) was enough to jog the=
 clutch disc off center.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">thanks,<div>Bill</div=
><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 11, 2021, at 7:13 PM, David Friedlander &lt;fo=
rzion7@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">=
Exactly, Frank. A few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the&nbsp;=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large;color:#000099">ancient language. I've checked the Bentl=
ey's and, for some&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">reason, it's not=
 in there!<br><br>All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?=
<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge;color:#000099"><br><br><br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">&nbs=
p;</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ye=
llowtr3@yahoo.com">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">then it should go right back in with just a little s=
wearing in the ancient language</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">frank</div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yahoo_quoted_=
6687296054">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,A=
rial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST, David Fri=
edlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">forzion=
7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv589=
3411734"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms=
&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Do I need to align the=
 clutch disc to the pilot bushing if</div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;co=
mic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">I never dis=
assembled the clutch? I only worked on the&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"=
>gearbox, not the clutch....</div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans=
 ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=
=3D"gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734yqt66329"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a shape=3D"rec=
t" href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tj=
wakeman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div>
    <div>On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David Friedlander
      wrote:</div>
    <div><br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <div>You used a clutch disc centering tool
      to align the clutch disc to the pilot bushing .. right? And maybe
      just a thin smear of grease on the leading edge of the&nbsp; gearbox
      gears?&nbsp; You have the bottom of the bellhousing sitting on a 2X4
      over the crossmember. Otherwise just try to line it up as best as
      possible (It helps to have you looking down and a second person
      looking at the side). have the gearbox in 4th gear &amp; when the
      shaft &amp; disc splines touch, wiggle the rear output shaft a
      little to get the splines lined up. Maybe putting out a wee dram
      of Baleys the night before can't hurt and you can finish off
      whatever is left after the spline slides in.</div>
    <div><br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <div>TeriAnn<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;sans sans-serif&quot;;font-size:larg=
e;color:rgb(0,0,153)">On what page of
          the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?&nbsp;&nbs=
p;<br clear=3D"none">
          Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?&nbsp; :- )</div>
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;sans sans-serif&quot;;font-size:larg=
e;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br clear=3D"none">
          Dave</div>
        <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;sans sans-serif&quot;;font-size:larg=
e;color:rgb(0,0,153)">'59 TR3A</div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
    </blockquote>
    <div>-- <br clear=3D"none">
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          Essential Guide to Overland Travel in the United States and
          Canada</a>
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