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To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Incantation
From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 18:27:20 -0800
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With Stags people use 3 inch long bolts between box and engine plate. Get
it almost square and slide them together.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021, 5:04 PM David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a plan, Tony. Ill give it a try...
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:23 PM Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:
>
>> Even though the shaft won't turn, it sounds like the splines aren't
>> aligned with the clutch disk.  Have the tranny in 4th gear when trying to
>> mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn the input shaft.  It
>> should just slide back together.
>>
>> Regards, Tony
>> On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>>
>> Exactly, Frank. A few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the
>> ancient language. I've checked the Bentley's and, for some
>> reason, it's not in there!
>>
>> All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59 PM Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> then it should go right back in with just a little swearing in the
>>> ancient language
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST, David Friedlander <
>>> forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Do I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot bushing if
>>> I never disassembled the clutch? I only worked on the
>>> gearbox, not the clutch....
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
>>>
>>> You used a clutch disc centering tool to align the clutch disc to the
>>> pilot bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin smear of grease on the
>>> leading edge of the  gearbox gears?  You have the bottom of the bellhousing
>>> sitting on a 2X4 over the crossmember. Otherwise just try to line it up as
>>> best as possible (It helps to have you looking down and a second person
>>> looking at the side). have the gearbox in 4th gear & when the shaft & disc
>>> splines touch, wiggle the rear output shaft a little to get the splines
>>> lined up. Maybe putting out a wee dram of Baleys the night before can't
>>> hurt and you can finish off whatever is left after the spline slides in.
>>>
>>> TeriAnn
>>>
>>> On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this
>>> effort?
>>> Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> '59 TR3A
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">With Stags people use 3 inch long bolts between box and e=
ngine plate. Get it almost square and slide them together.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Th=
u, Nov 11, 2021, 5:04 PM David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@g=
mail.com">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Sounds like a plan=
, Tony. Ill give it a try...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
font-size:large;color:#000099">Thank you,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#00009=
9"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021=
 at 7:23 PM Tony Drews &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tony@tonydrews.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>Even though the shaft won&#39;t turn, it sounds like the splines
      aren&#39;t aligned with the clutch disk.=C2=A0 Have the tranny in 4th=
 gear
      when trying to mate them, jiggle the output of the trans to turn
      the input shaft.=C2=A0 It should just slide back together.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 11/11/2021 6:11 PM, David
      Friedlander wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Exactly, Frank. A
          few candles, some incense, and an incantation in the=C2=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">ancient language.
          I&#39;ve checked the Bentley&#39;s and, for some=C2=A0</div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">reason, it&#39;s no=
t
          in there!<br>
          <br>
          All I changed was the TO bearing. Why the wrestling match?<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave=C2=A0=C2=A0</d=
iv>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans =
ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">=C2=A0</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:59
          PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yellowtr3@yahoo.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">yellowtr3@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">then it should go right back in with just a
                little swearing in the ancient language</div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">frank</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div id=3D"m_7395404692680710630gmail-m_634651277792314364gmail=
-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yahoo_quoted_6687296054">
              <div>
                <div> On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:15:29 PM PST,
                  David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">forzion7@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote: </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div id=3D"m_7395404692680710630gmail-m_63465127779231436=
4gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734">
                    <div>
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div>Do
                          I need to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                          bushing if</div>
                        <div>I
                          never disassembled the clutch? I only worked
                          on the=C2=A0</div>
                        <div>gearbox,
                          not the clutch....</div>
                        <div><br clear=3D"none">
                        </div>
                        <div>Dave</div>
                      </div>
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div>
                        <div id=3D"m_7395404692680710630gmail-m_63465127779=
2314364gmail-m_5700669766544837928ydp917c3b12yiv5893411734yqt66329">
                          <div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:57 PM
                            TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
                          </div>
                          <blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                            <div>
                              <div>On 11/11/21 1:30 PM, David
                                Friedlander wrote:</div>
                              <div><br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <div>You used a clutch disc centering tool
                                to align the clutch disc to the pilot
                                bushing .. right? And maybe just a thin
                                smear of grease on the leading edge of
                                the=C2=A0 gearbox gears?=C2=A0 You have the=
 bottom
                                of the bellhousing sitting on a 2X4 over
                                the crossmember. Otherwise just try to
                                line it up as best as possible (It helps
                                to have you looking down and a second
                                person looking at the side). have the
                                gearbox in 4th gear &amp; when the shaft
                                &amp; disc splines touch, wiggle the
                                rear output shaft a little to get the
                                splines lined up. Maybe putting out a
                                wee dram of Baleys the night before
                                can&#39;t hurt and you can finish off
                                whatever is left after the spline slides
                                in.</div>
                              <div><br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <div>TeriAnn<br clear=3D"none">
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                                <div dir=3D"ltr">
                                  <div>On
                                    what page of the manual is the
                                    incantation to speak over this
                                    effort?=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none">
                                    Must be spoken with a Limey accent,
                                    right?=C2=A0 :- )</div>
                                  <div><br clear=3D"none">
                                    Dave</div>
                                  <div>&#39;59
                                    TR3A</div>
                                </div>
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