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Re: [TR] [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3

To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 15:40:00 -0500
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, tritriple@aol.com
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Thank you, everyone for all your well-informed and helpful responses!

I have now removed the flywheel and delivered it to the local machine shop
for resurfacing. In the meantime, the pilot bush STILL will not come out of
the back of the crankshaft and I am devising plans to get it to move. I
love when people say, "Do this and it will just pop out!" Riggght....  :- )

Dave



On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:28 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:

> When taking flywheel off on a Stag they recommend replacing the bolts. Not
> cheap.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 12:03 PM Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <
> deruiterville@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No problem with an impact wrench for removal.  To reinstall, here is my
>> version of a flywheel locking tool.  I'm unsure of the Churchill Tool
>> number, but note the calibrated on the 2x4 wedge where the flywheel teeth
>> dug in and locked.  Just tap the wedge in the starter hole to immobilize
>> the flywheel, torque down, and remove the highly calibrated tool for later
>> use.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of David
>> Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:27 AM
>> *To:* tritriple@aol.com <tritriple@aol.com>
>> *Cc:* triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>;
>> net@newenglandtriumphs.org <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3
>>
>>
>> Since the flywheel/crank rotate when I try to loosen the flywheel bolts
>> with a ratchet wrench, is it permissible to use an air impact wrench to
>> loosen them or is that not a good idea?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:34 AM John Bowe via NET <
>> net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
>>
>> A couple ways to remove bush..... If you have a wood dowel the right
>> size.  Fill the hole with grease and then jam dowel into bush. The pressure
>> of grease behind bush should push it out.  Another way is to find a thread
>> tap the right size for inside bush and wind it in. The tap will bottom out
>> in flywheel and pull the bush out.  If you have a small seal puller with
>> the outside facing arms that could work if there is room for fingers to get
>> behind bush edges.    Just a few of many ways.    See ya, John B.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Friedlander via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
>> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs <
>> net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2021 10:03 am
>> Subject: [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3
>>
>> Good morning listers!
>>
>> A quick question: To remove the pilot bushing from the crank, do
>> I also have to remove the flywheel? I've already removed the disc
>> and pressure plate but the pilot doesn't seem to want to budge....
>>
>> Thanks for any insights,
>>
>> Dave
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Thank you, everyone for all=
 your well-informed and helpful=C2=A0responses!</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:=
#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic =
sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">I have now removed the fl=
ywheel and delivered it to the local machine shop for resurfacing. In the m=
eantime, the pilot bush STILL will not come=C2=A0out of the back of the cra=
nkshaft and I am devising plans to get it to move. I love when people say, =
&quot;Do this and it will just pop out!&quot; Riggght....=C2=A0 :- )<br><br=
>Dave</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#=
000099"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:28 PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com";>triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">When t=
aking flywheel off on a Stag they recommend replacing the bolts. Not cheap.=
=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 12:03 PM Randy and =
Valerie DeRuiter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:deruiterville@hotmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">deruiterville@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
No problem with an impact wrench for removal.=C2=A0 To reinstall, here is m=
y version of a flywheel locking tool.=C2=A0 I&#39;m unsure of the Churchill=
 Tool number, but note the calibrated on the 2x4 wedge where the flywheel t=
eeth dug in and locked.=C2=A0 Just tap the wedge in
 the starter hole to immobilize the flywheel, torque down, and remove the h=
ighly calibrated tool for later use.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Randy</div>
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
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<div id=3D"gmail-m_-4546078959121292641m_-1314887137461198032divRplyFwdMsg"=
 dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"=
font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounce=
s@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fo=
rzion7@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tritriple@aol.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">tritriple@aol.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tritriple@aol.com"; =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tritriple@aol.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net=
@newenglandtriumphs.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglan=
dtriumphs.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Since the flywheel/crank rotate when I try to loosen the =
flywheel bolts with a ratchet wrench, is it permissible to use an air impac=
t wrench to loosen them or is that not a good idea?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Dave</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:34 AM John Bowe via NET &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">A couple wa=
ys to remove bush..... If you have a wood dowel the right size.=C2=A0 Fill =
the hole with grease and then jam dowel into bush. The pressure of grease b=
ehind bush should push it out.=C2=A0 Another
 way is to find a thread tap the right size for inside bush and wind it in.=
 The tap will bottom out in flywheel and pull the bush out.=C2=A0 If you ha=
ve a small seal puller with the outside facing arms that could work if ther=
e is room for fingers to get behind bush
 edges.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Just a few of many ways.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 See ya, John B.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: David Friedlander via NET &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumph=
s.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&=
gt;<br>
To: TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; New England Triu=
mphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2021 10:03 am<br>
Subject: [NET] Pilot bush -- TR3<br>
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
Good morning listers!<br>
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
A quick question: To remove the pilot bushing from the crank, do=C2=A0</div=
>
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
I also have to remove the flywheel? I&#39;ve already removed the disc=C2=A0=
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
and pressure plate but the pilot doesn&#39;t seem to want to budge....</div=
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
Thanks for any insights,</div>
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rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">
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Dave</div>
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