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Re: Silicone brake fluid

To: vintage-race@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Silicone brake fluid
From: Oddcarnut@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:14:33 EDT
Interesting chatter about the silicone fluids.  Go to the Mini Mania
web site and you'll find yet another article on the subject.


> In a message dated 6/19/01 6:52:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> JWoesvra@aol.com 
> writes:
> 
> << 
> << There's millions of anecdotal failures all warning "it didn't work for 
> me".  What do you see as the failure point?  I live in the desert and don't 
> live with the common absorption problems but even out here I've heard the 
> stories.  Can you two enlighten us all? >>
>   >>
> 
> I think that the biggest problem is that first time users of silicone brake 
> fluid pump the pedal vigorously to blead the brakes which is a problem with 
> silicone.  Silicone has a greater viscosity that DOT 3 and will capture air 
> like a jar of honey when you shake it up.  I use a vacume bleader (it hooks 
> up to your compressor and sucks the brake fluid out of the bleader valve) 
> and 
> don't have a problem.  
> 
> To take full advantage of silicone, you should start with a completly 
> rebuilt 
> system.  I think that many of the problems start here.  I started with 
> clean 
> lines and fresh wheel cylinders on John Brookmans racing MGTD.  I used a 
> new 
> master cylinder from Moss Motors.  I couldn't get any fluid out of the 
> wheel 
> cylinders no mater how hard I tried.  Finally I cracked the line on the 
> master and couldn't get any fluid to pump out.  Took off the master and 
> took 
> it apart and found that the check valve was in backwards.  I think that 
> this 
> the kind of problem that gets blamed on silicone brake fluid: new or 
> rebuilt 
> parts that are not 100% spot on and adjusted properly (especially pedal 
> pustrod length/adjustment, or old margenal brake hoses).  The cost of 
> silicone fluid makes many first time users upset when they have a problem 
> and 
> waste a quart or more of fluid to get a firm pedal and they give up and go 
> back to DOT3 etc.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Rod Schweiger

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