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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: David Halliday <davidh@egopharm.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:21:28 +0000
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Allen,

It only took 11 minutes to got to this side if the world!  16.19 GMT!


Kind regards,

David

On 31 October 2013 16:08, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> wrote:

> Fletcher,
>
> Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26.  I didn't get it until
> 8:04 this morning!  But before I went to bed last night, I received
> Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM),
> Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's
> 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM.
>
> And your  8:52 PM reply to my note?  ' Showed up here at 10:08 this
> morning.
>
> Go figure!
>
> Allen
>   ******************************************************************
>          *Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
> *'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs*
>         ******************************************************************
>
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
>
>  And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
> This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other
> night which were 30-45 minutes.
> It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous,
> with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be
> either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel
> the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in
> this, as it must interface with a "real" internet doofus.
> I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than
> (claimed) sent  time - Rock Auto is one.
>
> Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
>
> FRM
>
> On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>
> I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours
> before some earlier ones.  ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if
> it were consistent.  I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes.
>  I'll write a reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up
> for 20-24 hours.  In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours
> earlier, to questions posed later.  Tonight I received two or three replies
> before I received the questions involved.   Somebody sent in a picture.  I
> have a reply from somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't
> received the picture post yet...
>
>  ' Don't think we're there yet...
>
>  Allen
>   ******************************************************************
>          *Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
> *'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
>          *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs*
>          *****************************************************************
> *
>
>  On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>
>  Steven Trovato wrote:
>
> OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list.  I sent them
> three minutes apart.  I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes
> later.  The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes.  Can anyone explain to
> me why this is?  What is causing such a long delay?  I'm sending this one
> at 7:10pm Eastern Time.  Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just
> to make a liar out of me.   :-)
>
>
> No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail
> getting sent out from
> the server.  At the  moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software
> related.  The program
> that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as
> quickly as it should.  And
> with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major
> factor in the Team.Net
> mailing list software.
>
> I'm looking into it.  Come the spring fund drive I may specifically
> request assistance with a new
> machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in
> the tooth.  Donate
> early, donate often ;-)
>
> I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At
> least the mail does
> eventually go through.  Using something like http://www.team.net/forumswould 
> not have
> this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
>
> mjb.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Allen,<br><br></div>It only took 11 minutes to got to=
 this side if the world!=A0 16.19 GMT!<br><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Kind regards,<br><br>David<=
br></div>

</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 31 October 2013 16:08, Allen Bachel=
der <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">bachldrs@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">

<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Fletcher,<div><br></div><div>Interestin=
g that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. =A0I didn&#39;t get it until 8:04 t=
his morning! =A0But before I went to bed last night, I received Charlie&#39=
;s 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin&#39;=
s 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt&#39;s 11:28=
 PM note at 12:08 AM. =A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>And your =A08:52 PM reply to my note? =A0&#39; Showed u=
p here at 10:08 this morning.</div><div><br></div><div>Go figure!</div><div=
><br></div><div>Allen<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:</div><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">
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    And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!<br>
    This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the
    other night which were 30-45 minutes.<br>
    It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be
    tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so
    it could be either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not
    necessarily travel the same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP
    could be a factor in this, as it must interface with a &quot;real&quot;
    internet doofus.<br>
    I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later
    than (claimed) sent=A0 time - Rock Auto is one. <br>
    <br>
    Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?<br>
    <br>
    FRM<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">I&#39;m seeing erratic response times: some l=
ater
      responses coming in hours before some earlier ones. =A0&#39; Could
      tolerate the delay much more easily if it were consistent. =A0I&#39;m
      talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. =A0I&#39;ll write a
      reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for
      20-24 hours. =A0In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours
      earlier, to questions posed later. =A0Tonight I received two or
      three replies before I received the questions involved. =A0 Somebody
      sent in a picture. =A0I have a reply from somebody else who reports
      seeing it, but I haven&#39;t received the picture post yet...
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>&#39; Don&#39;t think we&#39;re there yet...</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Allen<br>
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          <div>On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:</div>
          <br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <div>Steven Trovato wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type=3D"cite">OK, so I responded to two
                different messages on this list. =A0I sent them three
                minutes apart. =A0I received one from the list about 10-15
                minutes later. =A0The other didn&#39;t show up for 30-45
                minutes. =A0Can anyone explain to me why this is? =A0What i=
s
                causing such a long delay? =A0I&#39;m sending this one at
                7:10pm Eastern Time. =A0Now we&#39;ll see if everyone gets
                this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of me. =A0=A0:-)<br>
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              No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long
              delays in mail getting sent out from<br>
              the server. =A0At the =A0moment the bottleneck seems to be
              mostly software related. =A0The program<br>
              that translates between IP addresses and names is not
              responding as quickly as it should. =A0And<br>
              with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups
              are a major factor in the <a href=3D"http://Team.Net/"; target=
=3D"_blank">Team.Net</a><br>
              mailing list software.<br>
              <br>
              I&#39;m looking into it. =A0Come the spring fund drive I may
              specifically request assistance with a new<br>
              machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting
              a bit long in the tooth. =A0Donate<br>
              early, donate often ;-)<br>
              <br>
              I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we
              shall see. At least the mail does<br>
              eventually go through. =A0Using something like <a href=3D"htt=
p://www.team.net/forums" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/forums</a>
              would not have<br>
              this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.<br>
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              mjb.<br>
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